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We wouldn't talk very much. A good portion of a conversation is Q and A.

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On Apr 11, 2013, at 5:11 PM, Fred Olver <[email protected]> wrote:

> And my motto is don't ask if you can find the information yourself.
> 
> Fred
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: What do they do???
> 
> 
>> Here's my one liner for the day.
>> 
>> Keep asking questions. That's what the list is fore. Just don't send me a 
>> thank you on the list. <smile>.
>> 
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>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>> 
>> On 4/11/2013 2:34 PM, Debbie Worstman wrote:
>>> I just want to say that I do not post to the list often, but I have gotten
>>> some very good information from reading please don't let this make you
>>> fearful of asking questions.
>>> If asking questions makes the difference in someone either using there
>>> iDevice or giving up on it then please ask away.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
>>> Of Simon Wong
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:49 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>> 
>>> I am new to this phone, I can I not ask questions?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013-04-11, at 10:44 AM, "Fred Olver" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Maybe they come to you because that way they don't have to do it
>>> themselves.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Johnson"
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:05 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: What do they do???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I do have friends who hardly will ever try to figure things out on
>>>>> their own because they don't have the confidence in themselves, they
>>>>> are afraid of doing something wrong.
>>>>> I am not saying there is  right or wrong in any of this; I just think
>>>>> those that ask should be respected and answered even if we ourselves
>>>>> wish they would do their own work.
>>>>> I have done a lot of stuff for people that I think they should be
>>>>> able to do for themselves, yet over and over again when they need
>>>>> help they come to me for it and I think to myself, they need to learn
>>>>> this on their own but if they won't because they are fearful of
>>>>> making a mistake, then I have to help them.
>>>>> Patti
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Fred Olver
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:58 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>>>> 
>>>>> Patty, if the information is readily available, why ask the list?
>>>>> Aren't we supposed to be able to do some things on our own or have we
>>>>> all become so lazy that rather than find out ourselves that we must
>>>>> bring it to the list because we can't take the time to find out for
>>> ourselves?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Patti Johnson" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:53 AM
>>>>> Subject: RE: What do they do???
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was telling a friend about this who was thinking of subscribing to
>>>>>> this  list; and she said if  you're told to do your research all the
>>>>>> time then  what's the point of the list?
>>>>>> I personally don't mind answering questions, no matter how many
>>>>>> times the  question is asked.
>>>>>> Some people are new to this thing, and we don't know who is or isn't.
>>>>>> Or  their level of experience. Patience needs to be exercised on any
>>>>>> email  list,  because we don't know where the person writing in is
>>>>>> coming from.  Just my  humble opinion. And actually if you don't
>>>>>> want to answer that person on  list  write to them privately, which
>>>>>> would take away from the high traffic.
>>>>>> Patti
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Fred Olver
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:44 AM
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for your comments, I just happen to find it very irritating
>>>>>> that somewhat intelligent people choose not, even when they have the
>>>>>> information at their fingertips to find the information themselves
>>>>>> rather than ask on such a high-traffic list. This was as a result of
>>>>>> two messages in a row which asked the question of two different
>>>>>> app's, what does it do.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>> ----- Original Message. In this case, there were two mesages in a
>>>>>> row that asked the same question, "What does it do -----
>>>>>> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:23 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: What do they do???
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, I thought the whole thread was kind of annoying and
>>>>>>> condescending myself, and I didn't have the patience to read it. I
>>>>>>> doubt many of the targeted audience is going to have the patience
>>>>>>> to read such an email let alone follow the tips tucked in it. I
>>>>>>> also wonder how much time was spent writing and reading such a
>>>>>>> message as opposed to just hitting the delete key when someone asks
>>>>>>> a question you can't or don't want to answer. I find the one liners
>>>>>>> like "What does
>>>>>> this app do?" or "How much does it cost?"
>>>>>>> to be just as annoying as the next guy, but given that Raul, as the
>>>>>>> moderator, has already done a good job trying to curb such
>>>>>>> behavior, I don't think it's going to change human behavior much,
>>>>>>> and I think it's best left to Raul and the moderators.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 06:40 AM, Fred Olver wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Will for bringing me a chuckle this morning. I get so
>>>>>>>> tired of folks asking what does it do when they could so easily
>>>>>>>> find out the information for themselves.
>>>>>>>> Maybe my little piece will cause them to think before postting to
>>>>>>>> the list.
>>>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>    *From:* Wil James <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>    *Sent:* Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:07 AM
>>>>>>>>    *Subject:* Re: What do they do???
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    You forgot the other burning question. How much does it cost?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    Sent from Wil's iPhone 4S
>>>>>>>>    ----------
>>>>>>>>    E-mail or iMessage: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>    Twitter: wiljames
>>>>>>>>    zellow: wilcjames
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>    On Apr 10, 2013, at 11:47 PM, "Fred Olver" <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>    Inquiring minds want to know, what does it do? What does it do????
>>>>>>>>>    What does it do??? The answer is simple, in fact it is so simple
>>>>>>>>>    it's a wonder you didn't think of it yourself??? Unlike the
>>>>>>>>>    I-devices, there is a simple yet often-overlooked task which will
>>>>>>>>>    easily bring you the information you crave.
>>>>>>>>>    What is it you say, I can't wait, please, please, tell me.
>>>>>>>>>    Why it's as simple as typing the name of the app in to the space
>>>>>>>>>    marked, very clearly "SEARCH" I repeat "SEARCH", easily found
>>>>>>>>>    Where??? Ah, yet another question and yet one which answer is not
>>>>>>>>>    the commonly used phrase, "Over there", why it is, are you ready
>>>>>>>>>    for this, are you sure you are ready? It is after all your waiting
>>>>>>>>>    to find an answer which has iluded mankind for hmmm maybe 20
>>>>>>>>>    seconds or so, of course, in the app store. See that wasn't so
>>>>>>>>>    difficult, now, here are the directions. Merely double-tap on the
>>>>>>>>>    "app store" Icon on your i-Device, wait for it to open and then,
>>>>>>>>>    then, look down at the bottom of the page which you will come to.
>>>>>>>>>    There are five buttons labeled from left to right: "Featured",
>>>>>>>>>    "top Charts" "genius" "search" and last but not least "updates".
>>>>>>>>>    Now, all you have to do after tapping the "search" item, a new
>>>>>>>>>    screen will appear in which you will be presented with an
>>>>>>>>>    on-screen keyboard, or, you can use an external keyboard, either
>>>>>>>>>    Braille or standard to gain the information you so badly crave.
>>>>>>>>>    Then all you need do is enter the necessary information field
>>>>>>>>>    using voice, keyboard bluetooth or keyboard on the phone and tap
>>>>>>>>>    "search" and voila, the information appears. This feature can be
>>>>>>>>>    used to find hidden apps like tap tap see, four square, or
>>>>>>>>>    perhapse you want to look up 4square. Words like radio or music
>>>>>>>>>    can present you with literally hundreds of functional
>>>>>>>>>    applications. Perhapse you  long for apps which might be of use to
>>>>>>>>>    you tomorrow, Saturday, or maybe even next week.
>>>>>>>>>    Be sure to keep this document in case you forget what to do, lets
>>>>>>>>>    again, refresh,
>>>>>>>>>    1. Find app store on your i-device
>>>>>>>>>    2. Double tap to open this item.
>>>>>>>>>    3. find the WORD "SEARCH" near the bottom of the screen,
>>>>>>>>>    double-tap on it at which point you will be presented with an
>>>>>>>>>    on-screen keyboard or you can use an external one if you wish,
>>>>>>>>>    4. Type the name of what you are looking for or something like
>>>>>>>>>    rpg's or text adventures or cooking or games
>>>>>>>>>    5. Again, double-tap the "search" button by using a keyboard to
>>>>>>>>>    input your information your choice and off you go.
>>>>>>>>>    I hope this has been helpful, compared to making use of some of
>>>>>>>>>    the apps available for the iPhone this is truly a very easy task
>>>>>>>>>    to accomplish.
>>>>>>>>>    If you still do not feel you understand this task, let me know and
>>>>>>>>>    I will indeed be glad to put together a podcast and if enough of
>>>>>>>>>    you ask me too, I'll see about putting it up on "applevis", what
>>>>>>>>>    is that, you ask, well, that's for another night. but that's
>>>>>>>>>    another message.
>>>>>>>>>    Later folks.
>>>>>>>>>    Happy searching.
>>>>>>>>>    Fred Olver
>>>>>>>>>    Thanks to Ester and Jonathon for all of your previous posts
>>>>>>>>>    teaching all of us what we need to know, I only hope I have come
>>>>>>>>>    close in presenting the necessary information for those who are
>>>>>>>>>    having difficulty accomplishing this task.
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