Hi,

This makes no sense to me. lol.  Why would a person not want stuff for free if 
its possible to get it for free?  I think there are a couple of reasons why one 
would buy something they could get for free.  Sentimental reasons/pride or, you 
believe the goods/service your paying for is of superior quality than the free 
stuff.  For me, I look at the quality of goods and services.  If its all equal 
to me, 9 times out of 10, sentimentality is taking a backseat.  Now, I happen 
to prefer spending money to read an audiobook via audible.  That is always my 
first choice.  I just find that mode of reading more entertaining.  Second is 
NLS/BARD.  many times the narrators are of lesser quality than those who do the 
audible narrating but, I'll take them anyday over synthetic speech on my phone, 
tablet, or computer.  This service just happens to be free.  Lastly, I look to 
iBooks and Kindle.  This is my least favorite way to read but, having access to 
so many books, and the day the are released is justification enough to pay in 
my opinion.

And no, I don't expect everything for free, and I don't complain when people 
have the nerve to charge for things. lol.  I'm just trying to look at this 
logically.  I mean, how many sighted people turn away free stuff?  I'm willing 
to bet the majority won't and, don't.

I think the problem is, many blind people might take this for granted more than 
sighted folk might.  Or, maybe it just comes downs to a lack of means to buy 
the things they want.  

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On May 13, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Aaron Linson <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am glad that Kindle made their app accessible. I'm glad that it's just 
> another option for me when I'm looking at books for my college degree. Most 
> of the books that I need are not on bookshare or any of the blindness related 
> bookstores. I also like the fact that I can get the books that my sighted 
> peers are getting at the same price. I don't mind buying books at all. I 
> don't know why people are always wanting stuff for free, your going to have 
> to spend money and I for one am grateful to do so to show my appreciation to 
> amazon for making their app accessible. 
> Aaron Linson
> IOS and Android Accessibility Advocate
> Once an Eagle
> Always an Eagle
> 
> On May 13, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "Russ Kiehne" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I've read all of the Perry Mason novels and Louis L'amour novels more than 
>> once.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:50 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
>> 
>> I can't off hand think of a book that I have read more than once, perhaps 1
>> or 2, but something I would do rarely.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jane
>> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
>> 
>> Because I like it enough to read, and read, and read again, of course. I
>> don't want to constaly check it out again from a library; I want to have it
>> on call, twenty-four seven, and I buy it, I ensure just that.
>> 
>> Jane
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 12, 2013, at 5:55 PM, "Andy Baracco" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why would you want to buy a book after you already read it?
>>> 
>>> Andy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jane
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 2:40 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
>>> 
>>> Hi, Cara.
>>> 
>>> As someone else pointed out, Bookshare is kind of like a library. Well, 
>>> admittedly, you can keep the books from Bookshare. But now that I am able 
>>> to, I view it as a way to check out a book and read it, then find it if I 
>>> like it and purchase. It's what my Mom did with print books. Still does. 
>>> She'll go to the library, check out a copy, read it, and if she likes it, 
>>> will purchase it in hardcover or Kindle. I see Bookshare in a similar way, 
>>> since I don't know how well Overdrive works for checking out accessible 
>>> e-books to borrow, and I don't want to check out a library book and risk 
>>> damaging it by scanning it. I'm ore than happy to shell out money when I 
>>> have it, though, to get books, especially now. Reading with the Kindle app 
>>> is so slick, even compared to iBooks.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 12, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Might I propose an additional tach here?
>>>> 
>>>> Now that we have a much greater accessibility to a vast library of books 
>>>> which we never had before, might it be a good idea to take one more step 
>>>> toward equality by purchasing books and only using BookShare as a last 
>>>> resort when we cannot find a book we need / really want?
>>>> 
>>>> This to me at least, fosters equality and a sense of empowerment. Yes?
>>>> 
>>>> This also shows the makers of accessible reading apps and platforms that 
>>>> we not only appreciate their work but value their work. Not to mention the 
>>>> fact that we are now able to contribute to an author in the same way as 
>>>> the literate population as a whole does.
>>>> 
>>>> This is truly an important and  valuable thing, is it not?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks so much for such a great thread! Y'all rock!
>>>> 
>>>> Smiles,
>>>> 
>>>> Cara :)
>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 12:15 PM, Jane <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That is what I am doing, I find a book in another format, and read it. If 
>>>> I like it, I'll try to buy it.
>>>> 
>>>> Jane
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Arnold Schmidt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> One big advantage to the kindle app is the amazing number of books we, as 
>>>>> blind readers, now have the ability to access in one place.  It was 
>>>>> stated, in a recent Tech Doctor podcast, that this number is 1.8 million 
>>>>> (I have not confirmed this.)  Not all these books will be readable with 
>>>>> this app (the ones that are images), and not all books on Amazon are 
>>>>> available through Kindle, but just having such a large number of readable 
>>>>> books is the biggest advantage. Another advantage is how quickly we will 
>>>>> be able to buy these books after they are issued as print copies.  They 
>>>>> probably are available through kindle within a few days of publication. 
>>>>> The Nook, and Google Books services will have some of them, but Amazon 
>>>>> has the largest number of eBooks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That having been written, as a blind reader, because I could not own 
>>>>> books at a reasonable price, I am very use to borrowing and reading 
>>>>> books, and until recently, returning them.   So, I assure you, I check 
>>>>> Bookshare, Bard, Learning Ally, or any other legal source from which I 
>>>>> can borrow and read books, before I buy them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileens Misrahi" 
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:49 AM
>>>>> Subject: Justification for using Kindle vs. downloading from Bookshare
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello List,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Besides the obvious of,Bookshare not having a particular book,  what 
>>>>> other advantages does the Kindle app have over using Bookshare to access 
>>>>> books? I will check Bookshare first to see if the book that I want to 
>>>>> read is there to download because of the ability to download the book for 
>>>>> free. I have "Read2Go" & Voice Dream apps on the phone to accomplish 
>>>>> this. What features in the Kindle app is unique to app that is not in the 
>>>>> other apps? Input on this would be great.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Eileen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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