Well, first, that wasn't even close to the question I was answering. I
was only saying that you don't need to use the internet or the cloud if
you want to save your place between books. I didn't say it would be
easy, and I wasn't talking about supporting all of the existing devices
that are currently out there. No one could come up with a system for all
of the existing devices using the internet or the cloud either.
BTW, I didn't have trouble syncing my data, music, contacts and so on
between my computers, Nokia smart phone and MP3 players. True, now I do
all of that through the cloud, but there was a time I did that without
the internet or the cloud.
I should learn never to disagree with you David. Whenever I do, the
question I'm answering keeps changing until I look like an idiot. That
doesn't mean I'm not actually an idiot though.
On 05/20/2013 05:34 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
It is interesting how simple something can sound in the abstract. Note that
Amazon does it only with Amazon controlled equipment. Back when I had both a
Windows Mobile smartphone and a Nokia smartphone, each device syncing with my
computer was basic as long as I was not trying to sync things more complicated
than updates to files, and I made sure the file was closed last on the device
which had the most recent iteration of the file. However, trying to do this
with both the Windows Mobile and the Nokia became very complicated very
quickly. When you add different OSs and different sync protocols managed by
different sync programs on the computer, it becomes messy.
So, we have the Victor Stream by HumanWare on a proprietary OS, the iPhone app
on the iOS platform, the BookSense on a modified version of Windows CE (which
has been discontinued a few years ago by the way), the Icon and Braille Plus on
a Linux variant, The BrailleNote on a different variant of modified Windows CE
(which has been discontinued a few years ago), the forthcoming APH and NBP
systems both running Android.
I would love to see you design and roll out a local syncing system that will
run locally on whichever equipment the person happens to have, and will manage
transferring file location markers effectively between these disparate devices,
with anything near 100% accuracy. After all, anything less than 100% accuracy
will rapidly earn you a large volume of complaints from this community.
Like I said, it would be a very complex project, and one I would not care to
manage.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 21/05/2013, at 10:14, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
There are lots of ways this could be done without an internet connection. You
could pass some media between the devices, like an SD card, you could use your
PC as a sync point between your devices or the devices could sync with one
another through NFC, bluetooth or wifi.
On 05/20/2013 04:57 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
Excuse me, unless you connect your devices to some sort of central managing
database, there is no way to synchronise one's reading location mark across
devices. Amazon does it by having all devices connect to their servers and
update reading location marks, highlight marks, comments, and so forth, with
the database that also keeps track of which books one has purchased. It isn't
complicated so long as the infrastructure is set-up for it. Setting up the
infrastructure from scratch, on the other hand, is a real nightmare.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 21/05/2013, at 9:20, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
This could be done without an internet connection. Many of these devices
support SD cards, USB connections and bluetooth. They're also now starting to
come out with wifi connections.
On 05/20/2013 03:56 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi,
This would require whatever device you use at home have an internet connection.
I don't own a stream or, any other type of blind centric reader except the
actual NLS player so, do these devices often have the ability to connect to the
internet?
Ricardo Walker
[email protected]
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info
On May 20, 2013, at 3:08 PM, "Alan Paganelli" <[email protected]>
wrote:
I think it's a fair question though. Not everybody who gets NLS Talking Books
has a smart phone and they would like to have some sense of how popular it
would be. Personally, I'd just like to have the option. Now if there were a
way in which you could start reading an NLS book on your iPhone, get home and
pickup where you left off on your reading device. They keep saying more
features will be added to the Victor Reader Stream 2. Be cool if they could
manage that.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brad Hodges
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: NLS Update on Talking Book App
Similarly, I just signed on to NLS BARD and encountered the same two
questions.
On 5/20/2013 2:37 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
When I logged onto my library's bard site today, there was a survey question
about whether I would use the app, if it were available, and which version, IOS
or Android, I would use. I post this, in hopes that it is a national survey,
not just from my library. If you tend not to log onto bard often, log onto it
and, if the question is there, hopefully answer it yes.
Arnold Schmidt
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