On the computer display, the situation is a little different. Your husband is scrolling the text with the mouse by holding the pointer on a button and pressing the mouse button. In that case, the text is scrolling from bottom to top, usually, or from top to bottom. It is one reason sighted people do not enjoy reading on the computer for extended periods of time.
All of the book reader tablets have instituted some sort of page turning rather than continuous scrolling of text because sighted people find this to be much more relaxing. Apple initially did this with VO as well. Several complaints to accessibility told Apple that blind people prefer to listen continuously rather than stopping at the end of each page, so they instituted auto page turning a couple versions later. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 25/05/2013, at 11:04, "Eileen Misrahi" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi David, > > Thanks for your detail explanation. It makes it clearer to me what is > happening. I guess I just assumed that there was continuous scrolling > because of the feedback I get from my husband when working at the PC. We > don't really think what a sighted individual will do, but they constantly > have their hand on a mouse and scrolling automatically or it seems like > that. > > Thanks again. > > Eileen > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of David Chittenden > Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:40 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Kindle with Braille display > > Please consider that sighted people do not have continuous reading on these > apps. They touch the display to visually simulate turning the page. > Therefore, it can be assumed that the text ends at the end of each page. > Making the assumption that Apple is limiting the braille display driver is a > large leap from this factor. We wish to believe so probably because Apple > set it up such that, when VoiceOver is reading aloud, it sends an automatic > command to the app to turn the page. During the page turn / text refresh, > there is a brief pause in VO speech. > > My guess is that what you are experiencing is a text / screen refresh > situation. The same can occur on the computer running a braille display. > Screen readers usually provide a delay setting in the braille refresh to > insure the text has fully changed before it is displayed. I am willing to > bet that touching the iDevice's display will refresh the text to the current > page after the page turn command has been sent. Try thinking of it as the > computer equivalent of reaching out to turn the page whilst reading a > braille book. > > David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA > Email: [email protected] > Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 > Sent from my iPhone > > On 25/05/2013, at 6:26, Scott Davert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Eileen. >> Sadly, Apple is a closed type system, and if Android ever gets just as >> usable with braille as Apple, and it has the ability to do continuous >> reading, it's something I'll have to give a serious look. I use >> braille almost exclusively now, so it's a major thing for me. I'd love >> it if Apple would make it possible to scroll continuously with a >> braille display, but I'm sure it's very low on their list of >> priorities at this point. There are some rather significant VoiceOver >> issues that need reparing, namely, the inability to go from heading to >> heading without the page moving in odd ways. >> >> Scott >> >> On 5/24/13, Eileen Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Scott, >>> >>> I guess these responses get me furious that Apple can be so anal and >>> controlling of what can be permitted or not. This is an accessibility >>> problem to make the reading experience more enjoyable and efficient. JMO. >>> >>> Eileen >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of Scott Davert >>> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 11:06 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Kindle with Braille display >>> >>> Hi. >>> It's an Apple limitation in the braille driver. Continuous reading >>> with braille displays is not an option with any app. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 5/24/13, Peter Bosher <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi All, I'm using the Kindle iPhone app to read books in Braille >>>> with an Apex Braillenote, and fantastic it is too, apart from this > glitch: >>>> when I use the next-page command, either from the Apex or on the >>>> phone, it is very unreliable. It sometimes stays on the same page, >>>> sometimes jumps two pages forward, and occasionally goes correctly >>>> to the next page. Has anyone found a reliable way to read >>>> continuously from a Braille display? 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