Navigon lists several in app purchases. Item 3 in that list indicates that for fresh XL maps for North America, the cost is $19.99. This presumably provides maps that have additional detail as compared to the regular maps that come with the product.
Bob Fenton Sent from my iPhone On 2013-07-03, at 7:03 AM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote: > I haven't had to pay any extra fee for my updated maps with Navigon and I've > had it for years. > > But again I'm not saying that either app is perfect either, just that right > now the Seeing Eye app isn't worth the money I put out for it since my other > apps give me the same info. > > May and Prince Noah > www.canadianlynx.ca > > On 2013-07-03, at 8:53 AM, Robert Fenton <robert.fen...@samobile.net> wrote: > >> With the greatest of respect, I disagree with the note below. The seeing eye >> application does provide additional description of intersections and >> actually provides true turn by turn directions that are usable by a blind >> person in a fashion that is much better than the other applications. For >> example, if you're doing a pedestrian route with this application, you're >> more likely to end up on the right side of the street to reach your >> destination then you are with some of the other GPS applications. In >> addition, if you do want to receive map updates on Navigon, You do have to >> pay an extra fee. Thanks. >> >> Bob Fenton >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 2013-07-02, at 11:20 PM, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You need to catch up with times. The updates for maps with the breeze are >>> free. The Breeze is a one time cost. Also, the breeze and it's counter part >>> the mystro did not run in the same price range. >>> >>> >>> The Seeing Eye App does the exact same thing as Navigon and my Breeze. My >>> Breeze or Navigon I don't have to pay yearly for it's use or the upgrades >>> when they happen. >>> >>> Yes, the Seeing Eye app is another option for people to try out and it's a >>> valid argument for people to have in regards to the yearly price if they >>> already have something that is a one time cost that does the same thing. >>> >>> For me I can say it was a waist of 70 bucks since it does what I already >>> have. >>> >>> Also, the maps that the Seeing Eye is using is the same ones that the other >>> companies use and it's also pulling info from foursquare which a lot of >>> apps seem to be doing these days as well. So from what I've seen in looking >>> at it from what I already have and use, it's not better, but the same. >>> May and Prince Noah >>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>> >>> On 2013-07-03, at 12:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> And your Breeze was how much? I believe $800 is about right? If you buy the >>>> Seeing Eye app on a 3-year subscription, that means $800 divided by $130 = >>>> 6.15 which means I can renew my Seeing Eye subscription 6 times for the >>>> price of the Breeze and at 3 years per renewal this means 18 years. How >>>> likely do you think it is you get 18 years of service out of your Breeze >>>> without updates? I used to have a Trekker Maestro and Humanware told me map >>>> updates were $100 back then. I wonder which company is more greedy here and >>>> I also wonder whether the maps on your Breeze will be as up-to-date in 3 >>>> years as the ones the Seeing Eye app uses. >>>> >>>> Anyhow, I think this discussion is pretty well exhausted. I doubt any >>>> argument will change your hostile attitude towards Sendero and while you >>>> and >>>> everybody else is of course entitled to their opinion, I think if you did >>>> look at it objectively the numbers speak for themselves. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:28 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! >>>> >>>> You are incorrect assuming that I bought a subscription. I downloaded the >>>> app and when I found out how outrageous and costly it was, i certainly did >>>> not buy a subscription. I immediately went to the rating portion and told >>>> them how I feel. The app has been deleted from my phone. By the way, the >>>> apps you refer to are a one time fee. I've had my Navigon for 2 years and >>>> have only paid the cost of the app. I works just fine. A few bucks every >>>> now >>>> and then to upgrade the maps is reasonable, but certainly the price they >>>> want for a yearly sub is highway robbery. I just don't have that kind of >>>> money anyway, they wouldn't get it if I did and there are other good >>>> alternatives. Actually, I'll stay with my Breeze and support a company >>>> that >>>> is not blatantly greedy. I'm glad you find the app to be a good one because >>>> I would hate for someone to spend that kind of money and not like it. >>>> >>>> Mary Anne >>>> >>>> On 7/2/2013 10:20 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>> Hi Mary Anne, >>>>> >>>>> Let me ask you one question: If you feel this way, why did you even >>>>> download and buy the one-year subscription to start with? It's not >>>>> like Sendero forced you to do so. >>>>> >>>>> You could go and pay $59 for Navigon North America, then $15 or >>>>> whatever it is for BlindSquare for a total of $75 and have a workable >>>>> solution even though it wouldn't be as good as the Seeing Eye app. >>>>> This totally reminds me about the uproar some people felt when Sendero >>>>> dared to charge $5 for their LookAround app a few years ago, the >>>>> outrage some people felt then I think was downright ridiculous and >>>>> while $70 is more than $5, like I said, don't buy it if you don't want it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take care, >>>>> Sieghard >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>> Behalf Of Mary Anne Lynskey >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:47 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed! >>>>> >>>>> I think it's a disgrace and a total rip off. Not even a trial? Even >>>>> so, it's too expensive and nothing but outright greediness. I've >>>>> already written this as a rating for the app, adding that it's nothing >>>>> less than a case of total greed, greed, greed, taking advantage of >>>>> blind people and stealing money out of their pockets. Sixty-nine bucks >>>>> a year, that is outrageous! What a cocky attitude for Sendero to >>>>> adopt. who do they think they are anyway? I couldn't even rate it zero >>>>> stars and I begrudgingly gave them one just to speak my mind. >>>>> >>>>> Mary Anne Lynskey >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7/2/2013 2:28 PM, Chuck Dean wrote: >>>>>> At this time, they are only offering a one year, and a three-year >>>>> subscription. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 11:25 AM, dan Thompson <dthomps...@mchsi.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi chuck, can one buy a lifetime membership or do we have to keep >>>>>>> paying for rights to use the app? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To receive emails regarding Dan's daily Tips or the Daily HotSpot >>>>>>> Devotional, send an email to dthomps...@mchsi.com with "subscribe Dan's >>>>>>> Tips" or "subscribe Hotspot Devotional" in the subjectline. of your >>>>> truth >>>>>>> and live according to your word". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Verse of the Week >>>>>>> Proverbs 18:10 >>>>>>> The name of the LORD is a strong tower; the righteous man runs into >>>>>>> it and is safe. (ESV) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Prayer: "O gracious and Holy Father, give us wisdom to perceive >>>>>>> you, diligence to seek you, patience to wait for you, eyes to behold >>>>>>> you, a heart to meditate upon you, and a life to proclaim you; >>>>>>> through the power of the Spirit of Jesus Christ our Lord." (Prayer >>>>>>> of Saint Benedict of Nursia, >>>>>>> 480-547 AD) >>>>>>> Psalm 23:1-6 >>>>>>> 1 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; >>>>>>> 2 he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still >>>>>>> waters; >>>>>>> 3 he restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his >>>>>>> name's sake. >>>>>>> 4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I >>>>>>> fear no evil; for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they >>>>>>> comfort me. >>>>>>> 5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you >>>>>>> anoint my >>>>>>> >>>>>>> head with oil, my cup overflows. >>>>>>> 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life; >>>>>>> and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD for ever. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Psalm 19:8-11 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>> Behalf Of Chuck Dean >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:07 PM >>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: The Seeing Eye app, a quick test. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, I took the Seeing Eye GPS app for a quick walk around my >>>>>>> neighborhood to see how well it performed. I walked about one mile, >>>>>>> and took a different route back. It worked well, although like most >>>>>>> GPS apps it seemed to use a lot of battery, over twenty percent in >>>>>>> the >>>>> one mile walk. >>>>>>> The interface of the app is simple and easy to understand. Entering >>>>>>> an address is made easy because the state and city you are in are >>>>>>> already entered, so only the address number and street need to be >>>>>>> entered. If you are going to another city, however, you will need to >>>>>>> change that field. I started by searching for a point of intrest and >>>>>>> starting a route. The app uses voice over for most of the >>>>>>> announcements, but does have another voice that chimes in >>>>>>> occasionally. The directions were clear and given with ample lead >>>>>>> time. As I approached intersections it would announce the street >>>>>>> name and the intersection type, I. E. Fore way, and the street >>>> direction. >>>>> Also, as I walked the app announced points of intrest as I passed by. >>>>>>> On the way back, I tried the route to home option, which opened a >>>>>>> drop down menu with various options including one that is poorly >>>>>>> labeled. My wife told me it said multi modal, which voice over >>>>>>> didn't understand, so I relabeled this button multi mode. >>>>>>> Over all I think this is a great start, but there are a few things >>>>>>> I'd like to see in the future. I'd like to see the ability to walk a >>>>>>> virtual route, as I was able to do with my human ware Trekker.. >>>>>>> After taxes the one year subscription cost over seventy five dollars. >>>>>>> It sounds like a lot, but considering my old Trekker was fifteen >>>>>>> hundred dollars seven years ago, it doesn't seem too expensive. >>>>>>> If you figure it out, it comes to about twenty one cents a day for >>>>>>> the one year subscription. And only about thirteen cents a day with >>>>>>> the three year subscription, it seems reasonable to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck (mobile) >>>>>>> Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>>>> Google Group. >>>>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "VIPhone" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more 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