Your welcome. Glad I could help.
Thanks,
Ben

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On Jul 12, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Esther <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Ben,
> 
> That sequence of two finger double taps is simpler to get VoiceOver back in 
> FiRe 2, and worked for me!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:05:04 PM UTC-10, ben blatchford wrote:
>> What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I 
>> doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two 
>> finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works 
>> for me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, "Neal Ewers" wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a 
>> couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not 
>> only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have 
>> had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes 
>> anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, 
>> however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off 
>> before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On 
>> the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can 
>> likely be followed to the letter.
>>  
>> Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app.
>>  
>> Thanks again Esther.
>>  
>> Neal
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Esther
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
>>  
>> Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning 
>> of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with 
>> VoiceOver.  The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be 
>> taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering.  They announced 
>> this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting 
>> the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to 
>> sync this across to your device, you can still use the app.  There's also a 
>> clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you 
>> don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration 
>> screen.  It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by 
>> knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, 
>> because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the "Recordings 
>> List Configure Input" button in the bottom left corner of the "Recordings" 
>> screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the "Recordings List 
>> Add" button in the bottom right corner of the same "Recordings" screen.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or 
>> the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the 
>> following when you start a new recording:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 1. Double tap the "Recordings List Add" button in the bottom right corner of 
>> the "Recordings" screen.  This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, 
>> because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double 
>> tapped the "Recordings List Configure Input" button.  However, focus will be 
>> on the "Cancel, back" button, so double tap to get out of the configuration 
>> screen.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2. You'll be taken back to the "Recordings" screen, still without VoiceOver 
>> audio.  Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the 
>> last element of the screen, which is the "Recordings List Add" button, and 
>> then double tap.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, 
>> and should be able to record normally.  If you don't have the "Record" 
>> button, navigate to the "Settings" button at the bottom of the screen and 
>> double tap. Navigate to "Transport" and make sure that "Button Controls" 
>> switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to 
>> "on".  Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the "Recordings List Add" 
>> button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app 
>> is open without losing VoiceOver.  But if you close the app, you'll have to 
>> go through  this again to start your recordings.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe.  If you want to 
>> save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen,  
>> after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the 
>> app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen.  Neal can probably 
>> tell you whether this is selected by default.  If you want to save this 
>> setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and 
>> double tap.  You're moving from the default focus of the "Cancel" button at 
>> the top left of the configure screen, to the screen heading, and then to the 
>> "Save" button.  Again, you'll be at the Recordings screen, and will want to 
>> pick up at step 2., where you do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the 
>> screen to move to the "Recordings List Add" button and double tap to get 
>> back your VoiceOver audio.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Can people try this and check that it works for them?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Jul 2013, at 08:24, Neal Ewers wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, previous versions did work. The last one totally crashed VoiceOver. I 
>> have no clue what Rode will do with this. I will just have to wait and see.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Brent Harding
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:44 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I bought this thing awhile ago. Besides having to use the Focus 40 blue in 
>> place of hearing audio from VO, is there a way to not have it turn the audio 
>> all the way off when launching it? I suppose it's $6 down the drain, most 
>> likely, but thought I'd ask.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> From: Neal Ewers
>> 
>> 
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:33 AM
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I just got this from the developer.
>> I had ask when the upade that would fix the voiceover problems would be out. 
>> Their answer follows.
>>  
>> “It will be available in RØDE Rec 2.8. As you might have heard, RØDE 
>> Microphones acquired FiRe a couple of weeks ago. We imagine version 2.8 will 
>> ship late August.”
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
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> On Friday, July 12, 2013 12:05:04 PM UTC-10, ben blatchford wrote:
>> What I do is when I double tap the add button and VoiceOver dies, I 
>> doubletap with two fingers to bring VoiceOber back on and I do another two 
>> finger double To keep voiceover and stop music playing. That always works 
>> for me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2013, at 2:49 PM, "Neal Ewers" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Esther, as per usual, you are full of lengthy, sound advice. There are a 
>> couple things to add here. My Fire 2 app dies as soon as I open it. It not 
>> only dies, but the screen is frozen, so nothing can be acted upon. I have 
>> had sighted assistance look at what happens and nothing we do changes 
>> anything. Now, this might be different on other people’s devices. If, 
>> however, you have my problem, I would suggest that you turn VoiceOver off 
>> before you open the app. Then follow Esther’s very concise instructions. On 
>> the other hand, if your app does not die right away, her instructions can 
>> likely be followed to the letter.
>>  
>> Let’s hope Rode brings back the functionality of this app.
>>  
>> Thanks again Esther.
>>  
>> Neal
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Esther
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 4:06 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
>>  
>> Hi Neal, Brent, Cokes, and Others who asked about FiRe 2,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neal's correct that earlier versions of FiRe 2 from January at the beginning 
>> of this year, up to the last version (released May 28, 2013), worked with 
>> VoiceOver.  The FiRe 2 app got purchased by RØDE microphones, who will be 
>> taking over support for the app from Audiofile Engineering.  They announced 
>> this on the RØDE microphones web site on July 2nd.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> If you have an older version of the app that you can revert to, by deleting 
>> the latest version on your iOS device and using iTunes on your computer to 
>> sync this across to your device, you can still use the app.  There's also a 
>> clunky way to get the audio back using the latest version, provided that you 
>> don't want to change the recording specs for bit rate on the configuration 
>> screen.  It's based on being to navigate the controls of the screen by 
>> knowing where the control sequence is without audio feedback from VoiceOver, 
>> because you lose the VOiceOver audio when you double tap the "Recordings 
>> List Configure Input" button in the bottom left corner of the "Recordings" 
>> screen, and you don't get it back until you double tap the "Recordings List 
>> Add" button in the bottom right corner of the same "Recordings" screen.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> So, if you aren't changing the hardware configuration of recording setup or 
>> the recording bit rate, which is set to 44.1 KHz by default., do the 
>> following when you start a new recording:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 1. Double tap the "Recordings List Add" button in the bottom right corner of 
>> the "Recordings" screen.  This is where you lose audio from VoiceOver, 
>> because the app launches the configuration screen, as though you double 
>> tapped the "Recordings List Configure Input" button.  However, focus will be 
>> on the "Cancel, back" button, so double tap to get out of the configuration 
>> screen.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 2. You'll be taken back to the "Recordings" screen, still without VoiceOver 
>> audio.  Do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move to the 
>> last element of the screen, which is the "Recordings List Add" button, and 
>> then double tap.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 3. At this point you'll be in the screen for the recording you just added, 
>> and should be able to record normally.  If you don't have the "Record" 
>> button, navigate to the "Settings" button at the bottom of the screen and 
>> double tap. Navigate to "Transport" and make sure that "Button Controls" 
>> switch under the Record button heading of the Transport screen is set to 
>> "on".  Then navigate back to your recording and record as usual.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Once you've done this, you can add recordings with the "Recordings List Add" 
>> button on the Recordings screen and make new recordings as long as the app 
>> is open without losing VoiceOver.  But if you close the app, you'll have to 
>> go through  this again to start your recordings.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I haven't used additional stereo mic connections with FiRe.  If you want to 
>> save those settings, I think that when you reach the configure screen,  
>> after about 5 or so seconds of checking for your hardware configuration, the 
>> app will add stereo channels to the end of the screen.  Neal can probably 
>> tell you whether this is selected by default.  If you want to save this 
>> setting, and it is selected by default, just flick twice to the right and 
>> double tap.  You're moving from the default focus of the "Cancel" button at 
>> the top left of the configure screen, to the screen heading, and then to the 
>> "Save" button.  Again, you'll be at the Recordings screen, and will want to 
>> pick up at step 2., where you do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the 
>> screen to move to the "Recordings List Add" button and double tap to get 
>> back your VoiceOver audio.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Can people try this and check that it works for them?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On 12 Jul 2013, at 08:24, Neal Ewers wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, previous versions did work. The last one totally crashed VoiceOver. I 
>> have no clue what Rode will do with this. I will just have to wait and see.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>> Brent Harding
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:44 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> I bought this thing awhile ago. Besides having to use the Focus 40 blue in 
>> place of hearing audio from VO, is there a way to not have it turn the audio 
>> all the way off when launching it? I suppose it's $6 down the drain, most 
>> likely, but thought I'd ask.
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> 
>> From: Neal Ewers
>> 
>> 
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 11:33 AM
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Very interesting news about Fire 2 recorder
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I just got this from the developer.
>> I had ask when the upade that would fix the voiceover problems would be out. 
>> Their answer follows.
>>  
>> “It will be available in RØDE Rec 2.8. As you might have heard, RØDE 
>> Microphones acquired FiRe a couple of weeks ago. We imagine version 2.8 will 
>> ship late August.”
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Neal
>> 
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