Yes, my error was in the erroneous belief that one cannot enter the VoiceOver 
menu unless VO is running. This was something a mobile phone store rep told me, 
and I accepted it at face value since I had no way of confirming it. I am glad 
to be mistaken here.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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On 14/08/2013, at 13:30, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> wrote:

> David, sorry but that one is wrong my friend. I was able to pair the display 
> while Voice Over wasn't running as I had stated in my prior message in this 
> thread. I just wanted that to be clear to the list that this will work 
> without Voice over running. Of course you can't use the display without Voice 
> Over, but that's another matter altogether. I believe that Richard Turner 
> also thinks it can be done. Then, Scott Davert also confirmed that it can be 
> done.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> 
> On 8/13/2013 7:04 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
>> No, you cannot pair a braille display whilst VoiceOver is not running. 
>> Braille displays must be paired through the VoiceOver menu, which can only 
>> be accessed when VO is running. After a braille display is paired, you can 
>> see its status in the Bluetooth menu, and you can reconnect it in the 
>> Bluetooth menu, but it will only initially appear in the braille menu in the 
>> VoiceOver menu before it is initially paired.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 14/08/2013, at 4:38, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, yes I know that there is no Braille support while Voice Over isn't 
>>> running, but that wasn't my question.
>>> 
>>> Cheers.
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> On 8/13/2013 11:08 AM, Larry Lumpkin wrote:
>>>> I'm almost certain that Braille support comes in voiceover.  I believe I 
>>>> turned off voiceover and Braille went away.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 11:00 AM, "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all. My guess off the top would be that you can't do this, but I 
>>>>> thought I'd ask. I don't have anyone around who can help me figure this 
>>>>> out on my own. So here goes. If you are in a situation where you want to 
>>>>> pair a Braille display with an iPad or iPhone, but let's say that you are 
>>>>> doing this remotely over the phone and the person who will be doing this 
>>>>> is sighted, can this be done without Voice Over running? I'm in a 
>>>>> situation where a client of mine isn't comfortable enough with the iPad 
>>>>> just yet but wants to pair the Braille display with it. So, he's having 
>>>>> someone sighted help. This sighted person isn't very tech comfortable, 
>>>>> but can do regular gestures and has her own iPhone in fact, but knows 
>>>>> nothing about Voice Over. So, I figured that if I can walk her through 
>>>>> pairing the display with the iPad without Voice Over running, I wouldn't 
>>>>> have to do on the spot training of Voice Over. If it can't be done, then 
>>>>> of course I'll do that, but I was trying to avoid extra work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks much.
>>>>> 
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