Hi Mary, If my memory is accurate, documentation never gets released at the same time as does the OS. I'll bet within a month, we'll have an updated user guide for IOS7.
Les On Sep 20, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Cara, > It seems to me that the weakness of this release of iOS 7, not to mention > many many releases of android, is that the developers of the OS don't take > the time to document it and put that documentation out there for the public. > That would include all accessibility change documentation. > Somewhere somebody got the idea that nobody is willing to read documentation, > and that everybody prefers to mumble and bumble and grumble around the OS to > find out what is new. To me, that seems absurd. Okay. Not everybody wants to > read in-depth documentation. But for those of us who do, it seems a shame > that the opportunity is denied us. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 19, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi John and list. >> While I agree completely, let me also offer the precept that iOS has always >> been built on its ability to be easily discoverable. >> >> -And for me at least, in iOS 7 so far, the level of what I consider to be >> good discoverability is less than I'd like. >> >> However, rather than go into details now, I'm holding my thoughts for a >> while for exactly the reason John puts across in this note. >> >> While I personally find this version of iOS way less discoverable I also >> feel that not only is this just the first release of this incarnation of >> iOS, but also I do think there needs to be more than a 24 hour period for me >> to draw lasting conclusions about this, if for no other reason than not all >> features are obvious to everyone at this point. So while I do have my >> impressions, as we all do, I know there's a lot I'll be learning as well. >> >> So there's my point of view for the moment. :) >> >> Thanks for all the great posts both from those who like / do not like iOS 7 >> so far. >> >> That's part of what this list is for after all! >> >> Thanks All and have a great night!… >> >> Smiles, >> >> Cara :) >> On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:38 AM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I mean absolutely no offense, but you really have to read documentation and >> understand what has changed before jumping to conclusions. I will address >> your 5 points and explain what I mean. >> >> 1. In Accessibility settings, turn on, reduce motion. This will speed up >> the speed of the phone with VoiceOver. >> >> 2. Yes, VoiceOver sounds are different. You are basing your recommendation >> on personal opinion. Like anything else, you get used to them. Change is >> not always comfortable for folks, but human beings tend to adapt to change >> in the long run. I have already. >> >> 3. There is a separate control for silencing VoiceOver sounds independently >> or having them remain on. >> >> >> 4. I think point 1 might help with the focus issues. Not sure though >> because I haven’t experienced this myself. >> >> 5. Again, your opinion. There are a lot of changes to the interface that >> make iOS 7 worth the upgrade. The handwriting feature, the 4-finger double >> tap to start VO practice mode, the Control Center, the new layout to >> Calendars and Reminders, the new SIRI voices and the expansion of what you >> can do with SIRI, and several others. Learn about iOS 7 and use it for a >> few weeks before jumping to conclusions in 24 hours of use. >> >> It’s funny how I read posts like this with every iOS upgrade and Mac >> upgrade. I know for a fact I still haven’t learned all of the new things >> yet and am discovering changes every time I use my iPhone and iPad. >> >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, [email protected] >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX Mountain Lion and LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> >> On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:20 AM, James Lockwood <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> personally, i do not recommend updating to IOS7. i did on my iphone 5 and >>> here is what i dislike about it. i know some may disagree and that is fine. >>> sometimes people attack you when you dare criticize the GREAT APPLE! >>> >>> problems i have in IOS7 >>> 1. slower. i have noticed on my iphone 5 voice over seems to run slower. it >>> seems to be more sluggish on speech and flicking through applications. the >>> phone also takes a half or more of a second to lock when i click the lock >>> button. >>> >>> 2. voice over sounds are different. on the ipad voice over, voice over >>> would always make a sound when you flick from different frames or areas on >>> the page. for example, if you are on an ipad and in the messages >>> application, try flicking from the message display area down into the text >>> message box where you type new messages. you do this by flicking right. on >>> the ipad voice over always made a unique noice indicating that you have >>> gone into a new area of the screen. the iphone voice over never did this. >>> well, on the new IOS 7 it now does. this annoying >>> >>> 3. the side switch no longer silences flicking sounds. on IOS 6 the switch >>> above the volume buttons would silence the clicks made on voice over when >>> one flicks left or right. on the new IOS7 this switch has no effect on the >>> special clicks and noises associated with voice over. >>> >>> 4. voice over looses focus. i have noticed, and perhaps it is just me, that >>> voice over sometimes looses focus on where you were last on the screen. it >>> is difficult to explain and perhaps i am the only one who has this problem. >>> but, sometimes when i am flicking right down a page, voice over appears to >>> jump back to the top or loose focus in some other manner. voice over was >>> always completely stable in IOS6 and i never had this problem. nor did i >>> ever have voice over read previously read aloud text at the wrong time when >>> such text was not being selected and should not have been read. again, >>> difficult to explain. but, i do not believe voice over is as stable as it >>> used to be >>> >>> 5. finally, i dont see any real feature enhancements. without any real >>> enhancements i wouldnt update. just my recommendation >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google Group. >>> >>> Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing [email protected]. >>> >>> Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> >>> Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by 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