Regarding your complaints below, you were warned over and over as to the 
possible repercussions of an upgrade. Maybe the lead tech at Apple didn't 
call you personally, but you have been here during a previous IOS upgrade, 
so you should know what to expect. On the issue of the time, press the power 
button and wait for the time to be spoken. It takes a second longer, but it 
is definitely speaking properly. Most early adopters are not going through 
the misery you are conveying. Also, all this is new, and most of the 
perceived problems are more likely user error and not necessarily problems 
with the new version of IOS.

Joseph

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pablo Morales" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: More on iOS seven


That I am saying is if I bought a iPhone 5, with IOs6, who works worse that
IOs 5 in my old iPhone 4, even though, with that IOs my iPhone 5 was
working. Now if I install a new version of IOs, but it has bugs, and a lot
of issues that I am reading that happen to me and to  bunches of members of
this list. Why apple doesn't allow me, to return back to the Ios6, to the
IOs that I had that was working? Now I am not able to read the time, I have
to unlock the phone, I have to find the clock with my finger, and get the
time. Before I just push the power button, and I got the time.
Before I was going to the notification center, and I had the weather right
there. Now I have to do a lot of steps to read it.
Before voice over respond very quick, now it works very slow.
before when I open an app, my phone respond fast, and consistence, now it
works so slow, and some times the apps just doesn't open.
I think that the idea when a company create new versions of operated
systems, is to improve the functionality, but the reality is different. Any
way, if the Ios 7 is good or if it is bad, it is not the issue. I am a
customer that is not satisfied with how my product works with the last
update. I want that the product that I bought 1 years ago, works like it was
doing when I bought it, because the last update is giving me problems. It is
a right that I have like customer. I want my product, working, if they did
mistakes, bugs, and things that they need to fix, they should let me use the
operates system that I had before, until they fix what ever they have to
fix. That I am saying is that Apple should let me downgrade my iPhone, until
they fix what ever they did wrong.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: More on iOS seven


> Hi Pablo, you are certainly entitled to being frustrated and to demand
> that Apple make everything work perfectly. However I seem to recall that
> you sent this list a ton of messages about how you didn't want to upgrade
> to iOS 6 because of bugs. Then you upgraded to iOS 6 and you kept asking
> the list how to revert back to iOS 5. Now it seems you are doing the same
> with iOS 7 in wanting to go back to iOS 6. I just don't get it. If you
> don't want to risk the new bugs introduced with a new iOS, then wait like
> you did with iOS 6 until a newer iOS 7, maybe iOS 7.01 or something is
> out.
>
> Just a friendly suggestion.
>
> --
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>
> On 9/21/2013 3:59 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
>> should be a way to crak that locked that apple did with the downgrades.
>> I don't know, I don't see it fir. I pay a device, so if they provide a
>> upgrade, an operated system, that doesn't work for me, but the previous
>> operated system that my device worked well. Why is fir that apple
>> doesn't allow me to go back to the operated system that was working for
>> me when I bought the device?
>> I would like to ask to my lawyer is it is legal, or what kind of law
>> frame work can I use to improve it for the customers. Customers that
>> are buying a product that the upgrades reduce the functionality of what
>> ever they bought.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Lockwood"
>> <[email protected]>
>> To: "iphone group" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:38 PM
>> Subject: More on iOS seven
>>
>>
>> Earlier I posted that you could revert back to iOS 6. Unfortunately
>> Apple has blocked that ability now. You were able to revert when iOS
>> seven beta was out. But with the public release of iOS 7 you can't.
>> Apple operating system is still the most accessible application on the
>> market. But there are definite bugs in it compared to iOS 6. Why Apple
>> doesn't put voice over features through a more rigorous testing process
>> I don't know. But here are a compilation of the problems I have
>> experienced thus far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Many have discussed the jerkiness of voiceover. IT will have experienced
>> this. I have an iPhone five and iOS seven. To be more specific it occurs
>> when typing in Twitter or typing messages. I will be typing a message
>> and flick up or down one time to go past a word. Sometimes voice over
>> will then we verse my motion. Instead of being at the end of the word as
>> I intended suddenly I am at the beginning of the word. I'm a fairly
>> educated individual having a doctorate degree. So it is not due to me
>> accidentally touching the screen or anything on my part. It is a flaw in
>> the software at least on my phone. Another example of a voice over error
>> occurs in the Twitter application Twitterrific. Sometimes it will read a
>> tweet again and again and again until I swipe left or right to move up
>> or down the list of tweets. This I could be a problem with the Twitter
>> application itself. However I have the most up-to-date version
>>
>> Most annoying problem I experience is regarding voice over when I am
>> playing music or audio and the phone is locked. It occurs when I play
>> audiobooks or music. Voice over will suddenly say screen locked. It will
>> occur randomly and continuously. It usually occurs every 1 1/2 to 2
>> minutes. Is a software glitch for sure. Sometimes I am able to prevent
>> it from having this error if after locking the phone I disabled then
>> reenable voice over.
>>
>> Other then a new look which doesn't appeal to me considering I'm blind
>> and iTunes radio which I myself don't use there aren't many new features
>> that I personally use. But as I said it is the most stable application
>> on the market. I'm surprised that Google doesn't make their software
>> accessible It is quite a shame considering they are designing driverless
>> cars.
>>
>> I am considering purchasing an iPhone 5 S and if I do I will update the
>> list as to whether I experience any of these same difficulties.
>>
>> https://Twitter.com/JimLockwoodShow
>>
>> Http://www.jimlockwoodshow.com
>>
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