Pablo,
I would suggest that you may want to restore your phone to it's
factory settings and then restore your data and apps from a backup. It
sounds like you may be having problems that others are not and either
this or shutting your phone all the way and turning it bak on may
help.



On 9/22/13, Pablo Morales <pablomorale...@gmail.com> wrote:
> well, I got an iPhone 4, and the iPhone 5. In both cases it happen when I
> got a song  stopped, but in the play track on the music app. Even though, in
>
> my iPhone 4, it happen playing or not playing music. I have tried your
> suggestion, and it works fine, but some times. Any way, I am getting tired
> with all this issue. I do not considerate fir what apple is doing. They
> should allow the customers to downgrade their devices if the update is not
> working well, until they fix their mistakes. Those are the apple mistakes,
> not my mistakes, those are not the customers mistakes. . If they allow
> customers to downgrade the operated system because of their mistakes, they
> will not miss money, but they can miss customers if this policy continue.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:49 PM
> Subject: RE: More on iOS seven
>
>
>> Hi Pablo,
>>
>> On my 4S it consistently announces the time as long as the playback
>> controls
>> are not on the lock screen. Unfortunately I can't tell you how to fix it,
>> there sometimes are differences in how different devices behave,
>> sometimes
>> it's different from one model to the next and sometimes it can even be
>> different between the same model.
>> You could maybe try to lock the screen, then push the power button to
>> bring
>> up the lock screen and now touch the time, then immediately lock the
>> screen
>> again and try again. Possibly putting focus on the time may help, but if
>> that doesn't work then I am out of suggestions.
>>
>> By the way, did you say this is on an iPhone 4? I thought you bought an
>> iPhone5 last year, am I remember this incorrectly or do you have an iPhone
>>
>> 5
>> as well as your old iPhone 4?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Pablo Morales
>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: More on iOS seven
>>
>> It happen playing or not playing something. The voice over playing or not
>> playing, is not saying the time.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 2:41 PM
>> Subject: RE: More on iOS seven
>>
>>
>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>
>>> I get what you are saying to Pablo although Raul has said it already and
>>> sometimes things like that are better sent directly rather than further
>>> cluttering up the list.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, I am not writing a message just to say that, but instead wanted
>>> to
>>> point out that Pablo does have a valid point regarding automatic time
>>> announcement.
>>> Pablo is quite correct in saying that in certain situations the time is
>>> not
>>> automatically announced if you simply press the home or power button.
>>> If,
>>> for example, you have music or a book playing or even Downcast, if you
>>> have
>>> the screen locked and then press home or power Voiceover will not
>>> automatically focus on the time and speak it. Instead it will announce
>>> the
>>> track position of the currently playing track and sometimes it may also
>>> speak the artist or author if it's a book. This applies if the track is
>>> playing but also if you pause playback, the screen locks and you then
>>> press
>>> the home key, playback controls, track position and so on remain on the
>>> lock
>>> screen so you can start to play again although they will eventually
>>> disappear if you don't play for a time or if you pause playback, then
>>> unlock
>>> the phone and lock it again. Then the time is spoken again.
>>>
>>> This actually brings up the topic of playback controls on the lock
>>> screen
>>> which I'll address in another dedicated post with appropriate subject. I
>>> think this also needs fixing and improving since once they go away you
>>> can't
>>> get them back and are forced to unlock the phone and start playback
>>> again.
>>> Before at least a double press of the home key brought them to the
>>> forerground.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Joseph FreeTech
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:18 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: More on iOS seven
>>>
>>> Regarding your complaints below, you were warned over and over as to the
>>> possible repercussions of an upgrade. Maybe the lead tech at Apple
>>> didn't
>>> call you personally, but you have been here during a previous IOS
>>> upgrade,
>>> so you should know what to expect. On the issue of the time, press the
>>> power
>>> button and wait for the time to be spoken. It takes a second longer, but
>>> it
>>> is definitely speaking properly. Most early adopters are not going
>>> through
>>> the misery you are conveying. Also, all this is new, and most of the
>>> perceived problems are more likely user error and not necessarily
>>> problems
>>> with the new version of IOS.
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Pablo Morales" <pablomorale...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 12:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: More on iOS seven
>>>
>>>
>>> That I am saying is if I bought a iPhone 5, with IOs6, who works worse
>>> that
>>> IOs 5 in my old iPhone 4, even though, with that IOs my iPhone 5 was
>>> working. Now if I install a new version of IOs, but it has bugs, and a
>>> lot
>>> of issues that I am reading that happen to me and to  bunches of members
>>> of
>>> this list. Why apple doesn't allow me, to return back to the Ios6, to
>>> the
>>> IOs that I had that was working? Now I am not able to read the time, I
>>> have
>>> to unlock the phone, I have to find the clock with my finger, and get
>>> the
>>> time. Before I just push the power button, and I got the time.
>>> Before I was going to the notification center, and I had the weather
>>> right
>>> there. Now I have to do a lot of steps to read it.
>>> Before voice over respond very quick, now it works very slow.
>>> before when I open an app, my phone respond fast, and consistence, now
>>> it
>>> works so slow, and some times the apps just doesn't open.
>>> I think that the idea when a company create new versions of operated
>>> systems, is to improve the functionality, but the reality is different.
>>> Any
>>> way, if the Ios 7 is good or if it is bad, it is not the issue. I am a
>>> customer that is not satisfied with how my product works with the last
>>> update. I want that the product that I bought 1 years ago, works like it
>>> was
>>> doing when I bought it, because the last update is giving me problems.
>>> It
>>> is
>>> a right that I have like customer. I want my product, working, if they
>>> did
>>> mistakes, bugs, and things that they need to fix, they should let me use
>>> the
>>> operates system that I had before, until they fix what ever they have to
>>> fix. That I am saying is that Apple should let me downgrade my iPhone,
>>> until
>>> they fix what ever they did wrong.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com>
>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: More on iOS seven
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Pablo, you are certainly entitled to being frustrated and to demand
>>>> that Apple make everything work perfectly. However I seem to recall
>>>> that
>>>> you sent this list a ton of messages about how you didn't want to
>>>> upgrade
>>>> to iOS 6 because of bugs. Then you upgraded to iOS 6 and you kept
>>>> asking
>>>> the list how to revert back to iOS 5. Now it seems you are doing the
>>>> same
>>>> with iOS 7 in wanting to go back to iOS 6. I just don't get it. If you
>>>> don't want to risk the new bugs introduced with a new iOS, then wait
>>>> like
>>>> you did with iOS 6 until a newer iOS 7, maybe iOS 7.01 or something is
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> Just a friendly suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>>> *Knock Knock Knock*, Penny... *Knock Knock Knock*, Penny... *Knock
>>>> Knock
>>>> Knock*, Penny... - Sheldon Cooper
>>>> Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>>>>
>>>> On 9/21/2013 3:59 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
>>>>> should be a way to crak that locked that apple did with the
>>>>> downgrades.
>>>>> I don't know, I don't see it fir. I pay a device, so if they provide a
>>>>> upgrade, an operated system, that doesn't work for me, but the
>>>>> previous
>>>>> operated system that my device worked well. Why is fir that apple
>>>>> doesn't allow me to go back to the operated system that was working
>>>>> for
>>>>> me when I bought the device?
>>>>> I would like to ask to my lawyer is it is legal, or what kind of law
>>>>> frame work can I use to improve it for the customers. Customers that
>>>>> are buying a product that the upgrades reduce the functionality of
>>>>> what
>>>>> ever they bought.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Lockwood"
>>>>> <lockwoo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "iphone group" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: More on iOS seven
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Earlier I posted that you could revert back to iOS 6. Unfortunately
>>>>> Apple has blocked that ability now. You were able to revert when iOS
>>>>> seven beta was out. But with the public release of iOS 7 you can't.
>>>>> Apple operating system is still the most accessible application on the
>>>>> market. But there are definite bugs in it compared to iOS 6. Why Apple
>>>>> doesn't put voice over features through a more rigorous testing
>>>>> process
>>>>> I don't know. But here are a compilation of the problems I have
>>>>> experienced thus far.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Many have discussed the jerkiness of voiceover. IT will have
>>>>> experienced
>>>>> this. I have an iPhone five and iOS seven. To be more specific it
>>>>> occurs
>>>>> when typing in Twitter or typing messages. I will be typing a message
>>>>> and flick up or down one time to go past a word. Sometimes voice over
>>>>> will then we verse my motion. Instead of being at the end of the word
>>>>> as
>>>>> I intended suddenly I am at the beginning of the word. I'm a fairly
>>>>> educated individual having a doctorate degree. So it is not due to me
>>>>> accidentally touching the screen or anything on my part. It is a flaw
>>>>> in
>>>>> the software at least on my phone. Another example of a voice over
>>>>> error
>>>>> occurs in the Twitter application Twitterrific. Sometimes it will read
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> tweet again and again and again until I swipe left or right to move up
>>>>> or down the list of tweets. This I could be a problem with the Twitter
>>>>> application itself. However I have the most up-to-date version
>>>>>
>>>>> Most annoying problem I experience is regarding voice over when I am
>>>>> playing music or audio and the phone is locked. It occurs when I play
>>>>> audiobooks or music. Voice over will suddenly say screen locked. It
>>>>> will
>>>>> occur randomly and continuously. It usually occurs every 1 1/2 to 2
>>>>> minutes. Is a software glitch for sure. Sometimes I am able to prevent
>>>>> it from having this error if after locking the phone I disabled then
>>>>> reenable voice over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other then a new look which doesn't appeal to me considering I'm blind
>>>>> and iTunes radio which I myself don't use there aren't many new
>>>>> features
>>>>> that I personally use. But as I said it is the most stable application
>>>>> on the market. I'm surprised that Google doesn't make their software
>>>>> accessible It is quite a shame considering they are designing
>>>>> driverless
>>>>> cars.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am considering purchasing an iPhone 5 S and if I do I will update
>>>>> the
>>>>> list as to whether I experience any of these same difficulties.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://Twitter.com/JimLockwoodShow
>>>>>
>>>>> Http://www.jimlockwoodshow.com
>>>>>
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