The biggest annoyance for me is that in Twitter apps, I constantly lose my 
place in the timeline. This is made browsing twitter pretty much unusable on my 
iPhone.

Mike

> On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Geoff Stephens <geoffsli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I recently had my iPhone 5, purchased in October 2012, replaced just before 
> the warranty expired.  Of course, the replacement phone came with iOS 6 and I 
> had to upgrade to iOS 7 before restoring my backup from iCloud.
> 
> One thing I noticed was that with the fresh version of iOS 7, it seemed 
> snappier and not as prone to focus jump.  After I restored the backup, it 
> seemed the same as always.
> 
> I don't know if this applies to your particular issue.  In fact, it probably 
> does not.  Still, I thought I would mention it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sandratomkins
> Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: VO not holding focus.
> 
> hi Aman,
> Yes I have reduce motion turned on. I have  automatic background refresh 
> turned off. and I have followed all the advice for battery conservation and 
> processes speed etc. I have my switcher pretty much empty, but one thing I 
> would like to know, if I had apps that might drain the battery but they are 
> not running will they affect it anyway?
> 
> re the battery backup: I actually do have one which isn't too bad. However, I 
> prefer to use the iPhone 4 as  my battery backup because in that way I get 
> other functionality as well. i'm guessing that the last thing I'll have to 
> try is the reset to factory settings option and see if that improves things 
> at all. because this loss of focus especially on apps such as the one for my 
> crossword puzzle is a serious one it actually means I cannot use the 4 S for  
> the things that I can use it for on the 4.
> 
> I will let you know if I managed to find a way to improve things!
> Thanks for all your good advice,
> Sandy.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 16:35, Aman Singer <aman.sin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Sandy.
>> Allow me to second Chris' suggestion about the "reduce motion" setting 
>> in accessibility. I don't know how much vision you have, but this is 
>> strictly a visual effect and, besides somewhat reducing battery life, 
>> I found just the same problems you did when "reduce motion" was off.
>> Once I turned it on, the problems seem to be either resolved or so 
>> close to being resolved that I don't notice them. Note that this isn't 
>> just a touch screen thing, as you note, the keyboards had the same 
>> issue as do braille displays.
>> Secondly, as to batteries, besides Sieghard's suggestion about 
>> applications, it may be worth giving an external battery a try. These 
>> have grown much smaller and much cheaper over the past few years, and 
>> you can triple your iPhone battery life for €30 or so if you don't 
>> mind carrying a small device around.
>> HTH.
>> Aman
>> 
>>> On 10/16/13, Sandratomkins <sandratomk...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>>   A year ago, I had planned to sell my old iPhone 4 when I got my new 4s.
>>> However, because I use these devices as my computer. Reading books, 
>>> doing crosswords, searching the net, email and all that stuff, I 
>>> decided to hold on to the old phone to share out the battery power. I 
>>> decided not to update the 4  to ios7, it has, of course, downloaded, 
>>> but is sitting waiting for me to give the go ahead. Well, having 
>>> started life as an ios7 fan, and I do still like many of the bells 
>>> and whistles, I have to say that for many of my favourite activities, 
>>> I am going back to my old 4. I mentioned, in the below message, that 
>>> I can not longer do the Guardian Cryptic Crossword on my 4s with 7. 
>>> Well, I just took a look on the 4 and what do you think, I can do the 
>>> CW just as I always could. So, this is definitely a 7 bug for VO and 
>>> it is, as far as I can judge, something that affects many applications and 
>>> website functions.
>>> 
>>>   Finally, I have turned off all the relevant settings that will 
>>> drain the battery on my 44s running 7, and still find that the 
>>> battery drains at an alarming rate!
>>> 
>>>   pity 'tis true, but until these issues are addressed, I shall be 
>>> using my old 4 for the forseeable future.
>>> 
>>>   Sandy.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 16 Oct 2013, at 10:58, Sandratomkins 
>>>> <sandratomk...@googlemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI,
>>>> 
>>>>  I think there is a genuine problem, using ios7 on my iPhone 4s. 
>>>> For example, one of my pleasures in life is to do the Cryptic 
>>>> Crossword in the Gardian, most days: until now, I have been able to 
>>>> do this using the online app that is used on the website of the paper 
>>>> together with vo.
>>>> However, this has become increasingly flaky. This morning, it seems, 
>>>> that I cannot do it at all! I don't undrstand why this should have 
>>>> got worse, but it does eem to have done so. I have performed a 
>>>> reset, the one with the power and home buttons, but this hasn't fixed 
>>>> anything.
>>>> 
>>>>  Also, when sending a message, such as this one, I type vip into 
>>>> the "to" field and am offered the address for this list, but once 
>>>> havingt selected it, especially, when using my BT keyboard, I cannot 
>>>> move away from that field, I have to touch the screen to get vo to 
>>>> focus anew and then I can use the arrow keys or flick to find the 
>>>> edit field for the subject line.
>>>> 
>>>>  I know that people have mentioned the problems with focusing, here 
>>>> on this list before, I just wanted to say that I am still finding 
>>>> this, after having played with the latest update since the first day 
>>>> it came out. I wanted to give it time to see what was a bug and what 
>>>> was user error, and I have to say that this is definitely not user 
>>>> error. Neither do I think it a bug for non vo users,, so it is 
>>>> unlikely to be addressed by apple, unless we make them aware of it. 
>>>> However, I am always loath to submit a suspected bug before I have 
>>>> assured myself that others are also experiencing the same thing. So, 
>>>> is anyone else have problems with vo holding focus?
>>>> 
>>>>  TIA, Sandy.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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