Hi, I'm sorry if I didn't explain properly. I was not complaining about his questions not being specific. I simply wanted to help by pointing out that you do get more specific answers on this list if your questions are specific.
Sorry that I don't buy the fact of having to wait to get an answer on this list. Most questions get an answer in just a few minutes, especially at this time of new releases. Ron & Danvers Falling down is part of LIFE... Getting back up is LIVING... -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 3:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: brand new Iphone user! how do I? I agree if you know to even ask for the glove compartment, but the touch screen and the iPhone are so new to many users that I think it's OK to ask for pointers to resources on how to get started. There are plenty of podcasts and books out there especially written for the user new to the iPhone, and I don't think there's anything wrong with someone asking for that kind of information and getting pointed to those resources. One podcast could answer literally dozens of specific questions that would come to the list and be much more efficient for the new user than asking dozens of specific questions on list and waiting for those answers. I totally agree that questions to the list should be specific and subjects should also be clear, but I think the new user, who doesn't even know where to start, should feel free to ask for pointers to basic getting started information, which is specific enough in it's own way. On 10/23/2013 01:51 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote: > Hi Christopher > > I think our new user wants to get going with his phone. I think it is > easier to ask a specific question as to what he wants to do next and > get a real live answer. When someone is new at this, I still believe > that we can give them an answer to their direct question rather than > pointing them to something that can be too involved for their level. > > I still think that we can allow ourselves to give a direct answer to a > direct question. After all, we were all beginners at one time or an > other > > If I go on a list and ask where is the glove compartment in my car, it > makes more sense to me to tell me its in front of the passenger seat > rather than tell me to consult my owner's manual. > > > Ron & Dannvers > > > Falling down is part of LIFE... > Getting back up is LIVING... > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 2:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: brand new Iphone user! how do I? > > I don't understand your message Ron & Danvers. Dave asked for pretty > basic help getting started with his iPhone and Alex pointed him to > podcasts intended to help a new iPhone user get started. From what I'm > reading Dave got exactly what he was asking for. > > I agree subject lines can be far too ambiguous and generic, but I'm > not sure that was the case in this situation. When someone just wants > basic information to get started, I think a subject line and a message > like this is appropriate. Of course, if Dave wanted something more > specific then he obviously wasn't specific enough for that, but like I > said, I don't think that was the case here. > > On 10/23/2013 01:12 PM, Ron Pelletier wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> >> Now you see what I meant. This is the kind of answer you get if you >> are not specific enough >> >> Ron & Danvers >> >> *Falling down is part of LIFE...* >> >> *Getting back up is LIVING...* >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On >> Behalf Of *Alex Hall >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:38 AM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: brand new Iphone user! how do I? >> >> Go to www.applevis.com <http://www.applevis.com> and search for "ios >> primer". Also search Google for David Woodbridge iOS podcasts. >> >> On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:42 PM, <dbmitc...@comcast.net >> <mailto:dbmitc...@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello, I am a brand new user of the Iphone. I have voice over on and >> even managed to answer a call yesterday. >> >> how do I set up my phone? I want to start with basics: contact list, >> making calls sending text with voice and making sure I do not mess >> things up. >> >> any and all help is appreciated. >> >> Thanks, Dave >> >> *From:*Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >> >> *Sent:*Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:15 AM >> >> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> *Subject:*RE: Rotor menu question >> >> It's always been there and you use it to arrange rotor items in the >> order you want them to appear in the rotor when you turn it. You can >> double tap and hold on the Reorder button and then without lifting >> your finger drag it up or down. >> >> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <http://googlegroups.com>] *On >> Behalf Of *Dawn Petty >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:01 AM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> *Subject:* Re: Rotor menu question >> >> go to settings, then voiceovver, then roter. >> >> *From:*Pinky <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net> >> >> *Sent:*Monday, October 21, 2013 3:35 PM >> >> *To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> *Subject:*Rotor menu question >> >> Hi, >> >> When I go to the Rotor list I don't remember it VO saying Heading >> then if I flick right then it says reorder heading. >> >> It says reorder after every item in the rotor list. I thought the >> other times I was in the rotor list and scroll down the list it just >> gave me each item in the rotor list and if it was selected or not. >> Am I going crazy or has the reorder always been there or did I turn >> it on > somehow? >> >> One other question. Can I take Language out of the rotor list. 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