I know several sighted people who are financially comfortable, but they hunt for bargains, shop at Wal-mart, etc. I have also observed that there is a freeloader mentality among the blind, but I think that it stemms from the fact that historically, they have received many things for free. They didn't have to scrimp and save, do without, etc. to acquire things like technology, but got it handed to them by some government program.

Andy


-----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee

I don't agree. Sure, there are some blind people who want things for
free, but that's true for sighted people as well. I'm sure I could check
out Twitter and find sighted people who don't want to pay for something,
but I wouldn't conclude from that that most sighted people want
freebies. Don't assume that the vocal minority speaks for the silent
majority.

Furthermore, Ive seen very few messages on this topic where people were
reluctant to pay anything at all. Most people seem to have a concern
over the price or it's subscription nature. I know plenty of sighted
people who refuse to or don't want to get into another monthly
subscription for something. Nevertheless, some people are assuming blind
people are asking for something for free and just adding to this noise
that most blind people just want handouts, even though the actual
messages to this list don't bear that out. I'd never take tweats out of
context and then use that to paint some broad strokes about most blind
people. That's prejudice and discrimination, and I've faced enough of
that in my lifetime that I'm not going to turn around and do that to
another blind person.




On 11/08/2013 05:14 PM, Andrea Love wrote:
Sorry but most times blind people do want freebies. You should check out twitter if you don't believe me.
Andrea Love
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: Tap TapSee


No, you do want a bit of a freebie. You want to pay a onetime fee for a service that the company needs to pay monthly for. If you buy the app and use it just one time, you are paying for your usage. If you buy the app and use it over and over, and the company must pay costs every time you use it, you switch from paying for the service to receiving the service as a freebie.

It is like saying to my doctor, I will pay you $100 as a onetime fee. You then provide me health check-ups for the rest of the time you are in business.

As a counsellor, if you came into my office with that proposal, I would tell you to go elsewhere. After the first couple visits, I am paying for you to come see me. How long will I be able to stay in business if I did business that way. Well, I would soon not be able to make my office rent, so my business would close.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:12, alia robinson <ali...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don’t mind paying straight up for the app. that is fine. I do not want to pay a monthly charge, or pay for 100 pictures. that is my opinion, and other opinions are fine. What I strongly object to was the original posters assertion that the people who are not wanting to pay for it think blind people want “freebies” That is why I wrote in because that is a spurious and insulting assumption. I stated my reasons for not buying the app, and none of them had to do with wanting freebies.

Alia
On Nov 8, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:

Hi Alia,

Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but I for one am happy to see that
by far the majority of people seem to understand that you can't run a
business by spending money and not have any come in. I own a retail business and if I sold all the product I have to buy and have in inventory for what I
paid for it or for a 5% margin I would be out of business faster than a
puppydog can wag its tail.

Tap Tap See already stated that they will release an update within a week
which addresses the issue of failed pictures. Will you some time take a
picture which comes back with a result but a useless result? Yes, most
likely, but on the bright side this may encourage all of us blind folks to ask sighted friends or family members to help us develop our picture taking
skills.

I think it's totally cool to use other apps, many of us have been doing this
all along, but I think if you learn to be good at taking pictures and
combine Tap Tap See with other apps then 100 pictures would last you at
least a couple of months maybe even 3, 4 or 5 months. This means you may
spend anywhere from $4 to $2 or even a bit less per month on this and if
easy and reliable recognition is important to you than I don't think that is
an outrageous price.

Having said this it would be nice if Tap Tap See could offer an unlimited annual package at a subscription cost of say $99, then those who use Tap Tap See a lot have a way to get it for a slightly discounted price and if you were to watch for an iTunes Gift Card promo where you could buy 2 $50 cards for $40 each, you would actually only pay $80 a year or $6.66 a month for
unlimited use.

I think most people will buy the 100 picture pack and see how long it will
take them to use it, I just don't use the app often enough to warrant
spending even $5 a month. But I will most definitely buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 so I can continue to use the app and also to support the company and it is my guess the 100 pictures will last me close to half a year; I do really like Talking Goggles a lot of time because quite often I can get a
result in video mode very quickly which is enough to tell me what I am
trying to identify.


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