I've never had the edit rotor option come up in a text message conversation. I 
can't even seem to use the gesture to select text in a conversation. It just 
won't select anything.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Dec 16, 2013, at 7:57 AM, "Alan Lemly" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'll add to Sieghard's comments. Garth's democast on this topic is
> excellent. The title of the episode is Episode 12 - Selecting, Copying and
> Pasting Text and it can be found on this page:
> 
> http://www.iblindtech.com/democast/?currentPage=3
> 
> Greg Kelchner also did a podcast called Exploring and Demonstrating the
> Advanced Text Editing Capabilities in iOS for VoiceOver Users which can be
> found on AppleVis at the following link:
> 
> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-and-demonstrating-advance
> d-text-editing-capabilities-ios-voiceover-users
> 
> That link will no doubt break since it is longer than one line so here is a
> TinyURL link to the same thing:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/ka32zkb
> 
> Be aware that both of the above podcasts are pre-iOS 7 which added some more
> editing gestures as Sieghard already excellently explained.
> 
> I agree that selecting and editing text on an iPhone is one of the most
> difficult things to do on it. But like everything, practice does make you
> better at it. I won't say perfect because I am so far from that level that
> I'm not even going to pretend it's attainable.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 9:05 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Need Some Tips on Edit Functions
> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> I suggest you go to www.IBlindTech.com and listen to Garth's Podcast about
> selecting, copying and pasting text. I can't remember which number it is,
> but it is called very similar to what I just put here, Selecting, Copying
> and Pasting Text, so it should be easy to find.
> Doing this is one of the more tricky gestures and involves using 2 fingers
> which you place in the middle of the screen close together and then you move
> them apart horizontally. It is called a "Pinch Out" gesture and if, for
> example, you turn the rotor to Words, the text you want to select in Your
> Messages app will be selected word by word as you increase the distance
> between your fingers. 
> If you get to the edge of the screen and not all the text has been selected
> you can repeat the gesture.
> When you are done you now turn the rotor to Edit, then flick down with one
> finger until you hear "Copy", then double tap. Your selected text has now
> been copied to the Clibboard.
> You next would open the Mail app, address the message and then in the body
> field once again turn the rotor to Edit, then flick down until you get to
> Paste and double tap.
> 
> Another, easier way which often works well in iOS 7 is to use the new
> 4-finger quadruple tap.
> This gesture copies the last spoken text to the Clipboard, Voiceover
> actually calls it "Pastboard".
> You would just touch the message you want to copy, let Voiceover read it
> completely and then immediately after it finishes do a 4-finger quadruple
> tap.
> Then go to your Mail app, start a message and do what I described above
> which is to turn the rotor to Edit, flick down to Paste and double tap.
> One thing this method does is that it also pastes things Voiceover says like
> "link" or "button".
> For example, assume you have an email with a phone number or hyperlink and
> Voiceover reads the number followed by "phone number detected or the link
> followed by "link detected".
> If you do a 4-finger quadruple tap and then paste the number or link into
> another email, Voiceover would also paste the text "Phone Number Detected"
> or "link detected" and you would have to delete this again if all you wanted
> was the phone number or link.
> But this is still a very useful feature.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Bill Gallik
> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 6:33 AM
> To: List, viPhone
> Subject: Need Some Tips on Edit Functions
> 
> OK, I have to confess to some total ignorance here.  I want to take the text
> from a text message and place it into an e-mail so I can send it off to
> somebody who doesn't have a mobile phone.  Here's my questions:
> 
> - How do I select the text I want from the text message?
> - How do I then copy it to the work space?
> - How do I then paste that text into an e-mail?
> - Where can I read about using these edit functions so I can learn how to do
> additional things?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
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