I have to endorse all this. storage, at an economic price is an issue; and for those who're long time pc users, with tons of material they need to keep; there's nothing to beat your own real hard disk to put it on. USB based secondary ones for backup are good and straight forward too.
So a pc still has a big place in our lives, despite the progress on handheld. RobH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device I strongly encourage you to not give up on it. The automagic syncing of contacts, calendars, reminders, Safari tabs and bookmarks, text expanders, and more makes the Mac a great choice for those using iOS devices. I also can't recommend www.applevis.com highly enough; if you have questions, post them in the forums and you'll usually get helpful answers quite quickly. There is also the email list I'm on: macvisionaries+subscr...@googlegroups.com. Finally, don't forget you can always use a virtual machine solution, or Bootcamp, to put Windows on the Mac if you absolutely need to. To get back on topic, I forgot to mention one other aspect of a computer over iOS: storage space. My iPhone has 16gb of space, which I could max out at 64gb if I had the money and need. However, my Mac Mini has 500gb. I can store all the music, movies, audio projects, podcasts, audio books, applications, and so forth I want to. Even if you have a new Macbook with the smaller, flash-based drives, you have more room than most iOS devices, even at the low end of the Mac line. Macs support external storage (networked or plugged in directly), with no need for special apps. yes, cloud storage can help with some of this, but what happens when the internet goes down or you run out of room? The cheapest cloud storage I know of is Google Drive, and even then, a few years of that and you could have bought a hard drive with more capacity. I understand that cloud storage offers its own advantages, and I do use it all the time. My point is simply that iOS devices and regular computers are meant for two different sets of tasks. If possible, get both, and have the best of both worlds. On May 16, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Kimber Gardner <kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for these links. I bought a MacAir a few years ago but couldn't > beat the learning curve and gave up on it. I still have it though and > one day would like to make the attempt once again. I am an old windows > user, like thirty years of windows, and the Mac just beat me. > > Kimber > > On 5/16/14, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly >> because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of >> keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can >> assign >> one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and >> tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio >> editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions >> of >> things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as >> easy >> as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you >> double >> tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap >> "trash". >> >> Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in >> some >> areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of >> the mac, but it is not at all "crazy-making" past the first month of >> constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and >> some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a >> two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, >> assign >> the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or >> use >> Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the >> following articles: >> >> Common Mac myths: >> http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac >> >> Getting started with VoiceOver: >> http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover >> >> Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac >> users: >> http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac >> On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com> wrote: >> >>> The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are: >>> Word process editing. It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC >>> than >>> doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice. >>> Audio editing with GoldWave. >>> Web site creation and maintenance >>> Excel spreadsheets >>> >>> Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web >>> searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more. >>> >>> I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word >>> processing on a Mac. Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting >>> with headings, etc. >>> The business of having to figure out when to "interact" and when you >>> don't >>> need to "interact" with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy >>> making. >>> Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of, >>> Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and >>> Control+Shift+Options+up >>> arrow to stop interacting. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Richard >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy >>> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Computer vs. I device >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What >>> do >>> you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any >>> different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? >>> Unlike >>> the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew >>> Braille >>> but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer? >>> >>> Again, I hope this isn't too OT. >>> >>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>> list. >>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have >>> any >>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel >>> that >>> a >>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators >>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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