Only as superuser/administrator; apple wouldn't want to grant that, now that would defeat the object of security.
As an end user, a home directory is enough and like we both said, all you normally get. RobH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher J Chaltain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 1:00 PM Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 This isn't exactly true. Any Unix or Linux box I've installed or administered myself, I've had access to the entire file system. It's only been on systems where I've just been granted a user account where I only have access to my own home folder. For example, on the laptop I'm using right now, which is running Ubuntu, I have access to the systems entire file system. On 6/4/2014 2:01 AM, RobH. wrote: > To pick up a point about access to the whole file structure of the > iDevice,... Unix has never allowed that for security reasons, the most > you got is a Home directory/folder; so Apple could implement that for the > same reasons; so long as we had a Folder to organise our own personal > stuff > in how we like. Mac must do this, windows has, or had, "Documents and > Settings" for user data trees; so it's pretty old hat now. > > RobH. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher J Chaltain" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:24 AM > Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 > > > I'm not sure iCloud Drive would satisfy those people who want to be able > to access their iPhone like a thumb drive. iCloud Drive would still only > work on an app by app basis. You couldn't copy your music over in the > folder structure you want, unless the Music app supported iCloud Drive > and then 5G won't go very far. > > I too would like this feature myself, i.e. accessing the underlying > folder and file structure of the iPhone, but this isn't an oversight on > Apple's part. It's part of the design of the iPhone. I'd be surprised if > Apple were to change this any time soon, and for me at least, it just > became part of the decision making process. I'm getting an easier to > use, more accessible and more secure device at the cost of being able to > access the underlying file structure of the iPhone. > > On 6/3/2014 7:16 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >> Well, iOS devices are not thumb drives, and I doubt you will ever be >> able to use one as such without a third-party app of some kind. That >> said, if an app integrates the upcoming iCloud Drive option, you will >> have basically what you are seeking, on an app-by-app basis. For >> example, say you edit a PDF in a Mac app. you can drop it anywhere in >> your iCloud Drive, then use some app on iOS to browse to and open that >> file. If Voice Dream were to support iCloud Drive, imagine dumping >> zipped Daisy books into the drive, then opening them in VDR. I hope >> I'm making sense. >> On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:13 PM, Tom Lange <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> I would really like the ability to do file and folder management and >>> to be able to transfer files of all types from my PC or laptop to my >>> iPhone as if it were an external drive. I resent having to use >>> iTunes for any file/folder management task and would dearly love to >>> tell Apple to take iTunes and shove it way up where the sun don't shine. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:08 AM, "RobH." <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> File management: I know there are apps that do it, so sure, why >>>> Apple don't >>>> provide something at system level has always bugged me. I have used >>>> the >>>> apps, but having such a fundamental feature built-in, would be a >>>> monumental >>>> and long-overdue benefit. >>>> >>>> JMO, RobH. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mike Arrigo" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 3:18 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 >>>> >>>> >>>> Certainly, the ability to have other keyboards system wide is a great >>>> improvement. There wre 2 things I was hoping for that it appears we >>>> will not be getting. First, the ability to install other voices and use >>>> them system wide. Each person has their own voice preferences, but at >>>> this point, any new voices that are installed can only be used with one >>>> application. The other feature I wish we would have gotten is file >>>> management. As far as I know, I O S is the only platform where copying >>>> and moving files is very difficult. >>>> Original message: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> I just watched the keynote and the one thing I was hoping for, does >>>>> not >>>>> appear to be coming to iOS 8. Hopefully, I'm wrong but I fear not. >>>>> I would truly love to be able to organize the threads in the >>>>> Messages app; >>>>> you know, be able to create folders so I can save important >>>>> messages. All >>>>> I >>>>> saw in the keynote was the ability to name threads in group messages. >>>>> Again, I'm hoping I'm wrong and they will bring this feature to iOS >>>>> 8 but >>>>> ... >>>>> Mark >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >>>>> Of Christopher Hallsworth >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:02 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Accessibility Features in iOS8 >>>>> No just the Fall. If it's like previous years mid September. >>>>> Christopher Hallsworth >>>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind www.hadley.edu >>>>> <http://www.hadley.edu> >>>>>> On 03/06/2014 08:58, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy wrote: >>>>>> Did anyone give a precise date for the release of ios8? >>>>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:56, "RobH." <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> It will be interesting to see just how many make the leap from iOs >>>>>> 6.* >>>>>> straight up to 8.*. >>>>>> Rh. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> To: <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 2:19 AM >>>>>> Subject: Accessibility Features in iOS8 >>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> I just wanted to let everyone know the major new iOS8 accessibility >>>>>> features we know so far. This is from the Keynote - I don't even have >>>>>> the beta, so I can't break an NDA. >>>>>> * Better Zoom >>>>>> * Touch ID and a countdown timer as ways to exit Assistive Touch >>>>>> * multi-device support for compatible hearing aids >>>>>> * the Alex voice from OS X (possibly for Siri, or VO, we don't know >>>>>> for >>>>>> sure) >>>>>> * six-key braille input on-screen (no clue what this will look like) >>>>>> * third-party keyboard support for the whole system, and Fleksy as >>>>>> said on Twitter that it will be among the first to take advantage of >>>>>> this. Yes, Fleksy will soon be available at any point in iOS when a >>>>>> keyboard appears, from Mail to the App store to, well, anywhere! >>>>>> That's all I can think of for now, but between those and the standard >>>>>> iOS8 features, this is shaping up to be a very, very exciting >>>>>> release! >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>>> list. >>>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >>>>> have any >>>>> questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you >>>>> feel that >>>>> a >>>>> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >>>>> moderators >>>>> directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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