The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move 
left or right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate 
(simulate a double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this 
specific keyboard, but try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, 
usually) instead of that shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and 
I encourage you to look up bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources 
are available. Also, try control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you 
can play with all the keys and commands and hear exactly what they do.
On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello sieghard,
> I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and 
> keep
> in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I 
> know
> that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that,  but, I thought 
> with my
> blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the
> keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to 
> tap and
> item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just 
> highlight
> it? In either  case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no 
> results.
> Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get 
> the
> option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, 
> but I
> have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I 
> guess
> what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth 
> keyboard to
> do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? 
> I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your 
> help.
> Jim
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and
> frustrated with my new IPad.
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> 
> 
> Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would 
> also
> help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with 
> your
> Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are 
> trying
> and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> jim
> rawls
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and 
> frustrated
> with my new IPad.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the 
> right
> one please.
> 
> I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the 
> Bluetooth
> keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, 
> the
> keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to 
> work on
> it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. 
> 
> I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but 
> this is
> so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim
> 
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