Also, if quick navigation is off, which it should be by default if you're not in andedit field, you can just press right or left arrow to go forward or back through items as if you were flicking on the screen using one finger. When you want to activate something, press up and down arrow together at the same time.
Thanks, Ari > On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:14 PM, "jim rawls" <jazzpi...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > Thank you Alex, there is hope for me yet. Smile. Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Alex > Hall > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:04 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and > frustrated with my new IPad. > > The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move > left or > right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate > (simulate a > double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific > keyboard, but > try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of > that > shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look > up > bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try > control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the > keys > and commands and hear exactly what they do. > > On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls <jazzpi...@ca.rr.com> wrote: > > > Hello sieghard, > I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, > and keep > in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I > know > that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought > with my > blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the > keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to > tap and > item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just > highlight > it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no > results. > Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to > get the > option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space > bar, but I > have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, > I guess > what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth > keyboard to > do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? > I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or > your help. > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, > and > frustrated with my new IPad. > > Hi Jim, > > > > Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would > also > help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with > your > Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are > trying > and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? > > > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of jim > rawls > Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and > frustrated > with my new IPad. > > > > Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the > right > one please. > > I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the > Bluetooth > keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. > But, the > keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to > work on > it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. 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