Thank you Alex, there is hope for me yet. Smile. Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Alex
Hall
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and
frustrated with my new IPad.

The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move 
left or
right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate (simulate a
double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific keyboard, 
but
try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of 
that
shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look up
bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try
control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the keys
and commands and hear exactly what they do.

On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls <[email protected]> wrote:


        Hello sieghard,
        I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press,
and keep
        in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using 
jaws. I
know
        that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that,  but, I 
thought
with my
        blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from 
the
        keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says 
to
tap and
        item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just
highlight
        it? In either  case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no
results.
        Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to
get the
        option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space
bar, but I
        have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. 
So,
I guess
        what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth
keyboard to
        do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? 
        I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or
your help.
        Jim
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf
Of
        Sieghard Weitzel
        Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions,
and
        frustrated with my new IPad.
        
        Hi Jim,
        
        
        
        Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it 
would
also
        help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work 
with
your
        Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you 
are
trying
        and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have?
        
        
        
        
        
        Regards,
        
        Sieghard
        
        
        
        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf
Of jim
        rawls
        Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and
frustrated
        with my new IPad.
        
        
        
        Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to 
the
right
        one please.
        
        I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got 
the
Bluetooth
        keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad.
But, the
        keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem 
to
work on
        it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. 
        
        I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, 
but
this is
        so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. Jim
        
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