You will undoubtedly use the touch screen much more often than a Bluetooth keyboard, so it might be easier and will benefit you in the long run to first learn how the device was meant to be used, then experiment with alternative ways of interacting with it such as external keyboard and such.
Joseph ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim rawls" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:14 PM Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Thank you Alex, there is hope for me yet. Smile. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. The most essential commands are control-option-left or right arrow, to move left or right (like flicking one finger). Control-option-space will activate (simulate a double tap) the item VO just spoke. I don't know about this specific keyboard, but try just control-alt (alt and option are the same thing, usually) instead of that shift key. Yes, applevis.com is a great resource, and I encourage you to look up bluetooth keyboards and iOS to see what resources are available. Also, try control-option-k to enter keyboard learn mode, so you can play with all the keys and commands and hear exactly what they do. On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:49 PM, jim rawls <[email protected]> wrote: Hello sieghard, I have a Zag blue tooth keyboard. I'm using the book from Braille Press, and keep in mind that I've been a windows computer user for 15 years, using jaws. I know that things are different on the IPad mini, so I get that, but, I thought with my blue tooth keyboard, I could move from item to item and open them, from the keyboard. The command alt commands aren't working, for example, It says to tap and item command alt space bar should do it. Does that mean open it, or just highlight it? In either case, when I try to follow through on the item, I get no results. Besides, to get the alt key to work on this keyboard, I have to shift to get the option key to become an alt key. So, the command is ?Command, alt, space bar, but I have to throw in the shift key to make the alt key work. It's awkward. So, I guess what I am asking is this. Is it worth it, to try to use the Bluetooth keyboard to do all that with the IPad, or just use it for writing? I'm having a hard time trying to learn jesters etc. Frown. Thanks if or your help. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi Jim, Welcome and yes, things will get better. I am off to work now and it would also help if you were a bit more specific as to what exactly does not work with your Bluetooth keyboard. Can you give some specific examples of commands you are trying and which don't do what they should? Also, which keyboard do you have? Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: new member to the group, desperately looking for questions, and frustrated with my new IPad. Hi All, I apologize if I'm in the wrong group, and if I am, point me to the right one please. I have a new IPad mini with IOS 7.1, and a blue tooth keyboard. I got the Bluetooth keyboard, because I thought it would be easier than the one on the IPad. But, the keyboard commands that I have from a book from Braille press don't seem to work on it. I'm about ready to throw the darn thing in the trash. Help please. I've been a PC user for 15 years and can do things really fast on it, but this is so darn slow at this point. Does it ever get easier? I need help. 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