Not familiar with 'touch' cursor- is this a new name for the invisible cursor? On the PC side, I was just getting graphics when trying to review the screen- no help from JAWS cursor :(
I found today that on the phone, using the Groups button in Contacts still lets you select which group you want to see- so by selecting my iPhone group I'm a happy camper once again. . I was ready to have a fit last night when I saw that my general contacts, my phone's contacts, my husband's contacts, and an e-mail distribution list of over 200 people was all jumbled together on my phone. I'll have to fiddle a bit, but this is now looking very workable- I think :) Yeah! Also when you say "adjust these settings in the iCloud Control Panel app " are you meaning on the PC or somewhere on the device? Thanks so very much, - Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 3:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts You're right, some of the settings in the iCloud Control Panel don't read that well with JAWS, but it can be done. If you use JAWS 15, the touch cursor is best in my view; otherwise the JAWS cursor should be used in certain dialog boxes. Also, there is no way to adjust these settings other than in the iCloud Control Panel app itself. They cannot be adjusted on the iCloud website. Since you've already turned syncing on, my suggestion would be to simply delete any contacts or groups you don't want from the iCloud data set. Keep in mind that any contacts which were synced have been removed from your local data file in Outlook and placed into the iCloud data set. I think they are placed in the Deleted Items folder. So, make sure you have a local copy of them before removing them. Hope this helps, Grant -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don & Cher Sent: June 23, 2014 4:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Hey Grant- Finally got it- but got more than I wanted. All my different groups in Outlook were synced instead of just Cher's iPhone. Have to find out how to undo/reverse this. Some controls in the iCloud control panel seemed inaccessible with JAWS- is it easier to fiddle with all these settings on icloud.com? Thanks for hanging in there with me. Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2014 6:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Hi Cher, I Work is not required for contacts and calendar syncing, in fact there are no native iWork apps for Windows at all. That article that you linked to in your last message was talking about the requirements for syncing and editing documents, spreadsheets and presentations. You may safely ignore that requirement. As for contacts, calendars and reminders sync, I am using Outlook 2013 and have never used Outlook 2007 before with iCloud. However, Apple's own knowledge base clearly states that Outlook 2007 should work fine, so I believe the representative you spoke to was incorrect. Try to follow all the troubleshooting steps linked to in these articles. Be sure to double-check whether or not the iCloud add-in for Outlook is disabled, because in my experience this is often the cause of broken syncing. iCloud: Troubleshooting iCloud Contacts: http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3998 iCloud: Troubleshooting iCloud Calendar: http://support.apple.com/kb/ts3999 Also check out this third party site for other tips and workarounds: http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/icloud-and-outlook-problems/ Not sure what screen reader you're using, but if it's JAWS, I'd be happy to connect to JAWS Tandem with you and see if I can help at all (no guarantees, though). You could also try contacting Apple telephone support and see if they can advise you. Off the top of my head, though, I can't remember if they would provide support for their Windows applications, but if you can tie it in to a question about your iOS device, they might be able to provide some suggestions. Grant -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don & Cher Sent: June 21, 2014 2:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Hey Grant- Had an Apple store appt. today- and asked about problem. Genius said that an article stated that you must have Outlook 2010 or later to sync contacts and perform other similar tasks. I missed the link to which you are referring but have your messages and will check it out in case the Apple tech is wrong. Are you using a later Outlook version? Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Hi Cher, in terms of your contacts/calendars/reminders, iCloud is simply the central repository for your data. The idea is to store your data in the cloud then sync it to any devices that you want, such as to an iPhone, an iPad, and perhaps Outlook on a PC. You can also collaborate with other people by having, say, a shared calendar that everyone in your family can add to or change whenever they want, and the results are pushed to everyone's devices. It's a way to sync your data from device to device without having to think about it or connect any wires. It has nothing to do with iCloud backup. That is a totally separate function of iCloud. I'm really sorry it's not working for you. Did you take a look at the support article I sent you and follow all the troubleshooting steps in it? When configured correctly, it's a beautiful thing. Grant On Jun 20, 2014, at 4:29 PM, "Don & Cher" <[email protected]> wrote: Your answer makes a good bit of sense. I've been concerned about the pitfalls of using iCloud instead of Outlook- I understand Outlook syncing, but the "do's and don'ts" of iCloud are not clear to me. Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 1:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts The advantage of syncing your contacts with iCloud instead is no matter where your iDevice is, you can get them back. If your only syncing them with say Microsoft Outlook then you can't retrieve them until you get back home. On the other hand I guess, if you rarely leave home then it probably doesn't matter but I like having the iAdvantage. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don & Cher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 6:15 PM Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Yes, my Outlook contacts are being stored under an iCloud folder on the PC; and with my phone connected to the PC, iTunes reports that "your contacts are being synced over the air through iCloud. Under Settings, cellular data, contacts are turned on; and under iCloud the contacts are turned on but iCloud backup is turned off as I do this on the PC . Re the Add-ins section in the options dialog- can't locate this under Tools, Options in Outlook 2007. Thought it would be nice to have contacts updated immediately, but am about ready to give this up as a bad idea :( Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 8:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Also in Outlook, make sure your contacts are stored in the iCloud data file rather than a local data set. Press CTRL+Y to bring up the folder list, and make sure they are stored under the "iCloud" section. Also check under the Add-ins section in the options dialog to make sure the iCloud add-in hasn't been disabled. Outlook occasionally disables this on its own accord if it thinks that the add-in is slowing down Outlook too much. Grant -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don & Cher Sent: June 19, 2014 4:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Perhaps I need to check the iCloud control panel then and see if the set-up is incomplete or something. Thanks. Cher -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Grant Hardy Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 5:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts Yes, however this thread is discussing contact and calendar sync. Those should work fine weather on Wi-Fi or cellular data. Grant On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:14 PM, "alberto" <[email protected]> wrote: Hi, based on what I know the phone will only back up when connected to a wifi network and plugged in to a wall outlet. > On Jun 19, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > > iCloud backups will not be made over the cellular data network, but > I'm not aware of any limitation affecting the synchronization of > iCloud mail, contacts, calendars, or reminders over the cellular data > network. These should sync just fine. If they do not, I suspect > something is wrong with your set-up. As for using random Wi-Fi > networks, assuming you have the person's consent to do so, I > personally wouldn't as there are genuine security risks to be aware of. > > Grant > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Don & Cher > Sent: June 19, 2014 6:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts > > Showing my router ignorance here ;) So- even though I pick up WIFI > from my neighbor's router, are you saying that I still must have my > own router to use iCloud to sync contacts for some reason? > > Cher > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of alberto > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 2:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts > > If you don't have wifi the best you could do is do it threw iTunes. > For iCloud wifi is required to make the changes rapidly between the > devices, but it can't happen if you have no wifi which basically means > no connection between the them On Jun 18, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Don & > Cher <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I don't have my own router- so only have sporadic WIFI access. Under >> this circumstance, what steps must be taken to sync through iCloud? I >> just > added >> a contact in Outlook half an hour ago and it is not showing up on the > phone >> yet. >> >> Cher >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of M. Taylor >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:41 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts >> >> Hello Mike, >> >> The short answer to your question is: >> >> The iCloud Control Panel is a piece of software that you must >> download > from, >> among other places, iCloud.com. >> >> It allows you to have your iCloud info, such as Contacts, Reminders, >> Appointments, (1) appear and be accessible from within the MS Outlook >> application and (2) be synchronized via a cell connection, only. >> Without having the iCloud Control Panel installed in Windows, you can >> only synchronize your iCloud data via a USB connection through iTunes >> or via a WiFi connection. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Mike O'Brien >> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 8:23 AM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Subject: Confusion over syncing outlook contacts >> >> Hi >> >> I'm setting up a new iPhone 5C running IOS 7.1.1 for my wife. I have >> seen messages on this list, and read in the Getting Started with the >> iPhone NBP book you must use iCloud with the iCloud Control Pannel to >> sync contacts from the computer to the phone. I have set up the >> phone to use iCloud, > but >> I do not have the iCloud Control Pannel. But when I was in the phone >> settings and on the Info tab of iTunes 11.2, there is a setting to >> sync contacts. So I checked it and then synced the phone. After >> syncing, it appears that all of the Outlook contacts are now on the >> phone. Can anyone clarify? >> >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the viphone > list. >> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you >> have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that > a >> member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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