Hi Joseph, I think once iOS 8 is in the hand of the public Apple Accessibility will get the message. As for going to Android, I doubt it's an improvement. Yes, I know there are some Android fan boys on this list who say Android accessibility is really good now, but I still think that Android itself is lacking and the biggest turn off for me is the security and the fact that Google's customers are not the users of Android but the advertisers who pay them the big money. Android is not making them money and Google makes their money by trying to get as much information from its users as possible. This ois not the case with Apple.
Regards, sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joseph Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 1:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IOS8!!! Hello Listers, Somehow, this really needs to be brought to Apple's attention. I mean in a big way. In such a way that they will be willing to really take accessibility problems seriously. While I don't know how to best go about this, perhaps others might have some really constructive ideas and ways to move forward with them. While I am interested in purchasing a new iPhone 6 or 6 plus, I don't know if I want to sink my money and have all kind of aggravations that could have been prevented in the first place. I suppose I'll hold off for quite a while. Who knows, I might even go over to Android, just a thought. On Sep 13, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Alan Paganelli <[email protected]> wrote: > I usually hold off a couple of days mostly because everybody and their sister wants to download the update. Maybe in this case it may be wiser to hold off until we see what others are saying about it. Sure there are always those who will complained if you hang them with a new rope but perhaps in this case there may well be fire with all that smoke. > > > Regards, > > Alan > > Go Chicago Bears in 2014! > > Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. > > Please click on: > HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ > There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances > played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" > <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: IOS8!!! > > > That's true, the difference here though, at least in my mind, is that > this is coming from someone on the list who I think is pretty level > headed. If I recall correctly, Sieghard was recommending people > upgrade to IOS 7 when it came out because the advantages out weighed > the annoyances and the different ways a few things worked. In this > case, you have someone who I respect quite a bit on the list sounding the alarm. > This gives me much more pause then the normal run of the mill > complaints that come out whenever anything changes. I'll be looking > forward to more information from Sieghard and others once IOS 8 is > released and they aren't bound by the NDA they agreed to. > > On 09/12/2014 01:41 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote: >> As I recall, when they came out with iOS 7 the same thing was said. >> We all survived it! I suspect we'll do the same with iOS 8! <grin> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> Go Chicago Bears in 2014! >> >> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! >> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >> >> Please click on: >> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances >> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics >> format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" >> <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:50 PM >> Subject: RE: IOS8!!! >> >> >> I can't say too much because of the NDA I agreed to when I signed up >> for my developer account, but Pablo is wise to stay with iOS 7 for >> now, there will be a lot of "pissing and moaning" as you put It Ed, >> that I can guaranty. I can only advise those who like their phone to >> work very nicely and especially those who like to use their phone >> with a bluetooth keyboard a lot to maybe wait a bit, iOS 8 is >> probably one of the buggiest or maybe the buggiest release Apple has >> done. >> >> Take care, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Pinky >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 4:53 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: IOS8!!! >> >> Hi Pablo, >> Come on and take a chance on IOS 8. I like to hear you piss and >> moan. LOL Just kidding. >> Ed >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 5:40 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: IOS8!!! >> >> Oh Pablo it can't be that bad can it? LOL! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> Go Chicago Bears in 2014! >> >> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! >> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >> >> Please click on: >> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances >> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics >> format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pablo Morales" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 3:36 PM >> Subject: RE: IOS8!!! >> >> >> Hmmm, maybe you are right. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Alan Paganelli >> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:48 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: IOS8!!! >> >> Are you sure Pablo? LOL! Your taking a huge risk here! LOL! >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Alan >> >> Go Chicago Bears in 2014! >> >> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents? Act now!!!!! >> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >> >> Please click on: >> HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances >> played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics >> format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pablo Morales" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 3:48 PM >> Subject: RE: IOS8!!! >> >> >> Oh, yes. I learned the lesson. Maybe for June 2015 IOs 8 will be >> with no bugs, then I will install it in my phone. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou >> Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:19 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: IOS8!!! >> >> You heard correctly. Also! I beg everyone who has a problem with bugs >> to wait rather than installing the update and spending a lot of time >> criticizing Apple for such a bad update. >> >> On 9/9/14, Cheryl Homiak <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I think I remember from today that it will be the 17th. But I heard >>> a lot today so I could be mistaken. >>> >>> -- >>> Cheryl >>> >>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. >>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! >>> Then God gave me a new heart and life: >>> His joy for my despairing tears! >>> And now, every day: >>> "This I call to mind, >>> and therefore I have hope: >>> The steadfast love of the Lord >>> never ceases; >>> his mercies never come to an end; >>> they are new every morning; >>> great is your faithfulness." >>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 4:52 PM, Anthony Vece <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Everyone; >>>> >>>> Does anyone know when IOS8 will be available? >>>> I thought today was the day. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Anthony >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5s! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>>> default. 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