John, If you remember, the very same thing happened with the IOS 7 and the iPhone 4. Apple said it would work but it turned out very slow and crashing. It did end up working very well when they cleaned out the bugs. I suspect the same thing will happen here.
Ron & Danvers -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 10:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver It seems to me that the people who are having crashing problems with IOS 8 are those with 4s's. It's very possible that the 4s can't handle the requirements of IOS with other apps and Apple shouldn't have supported it. On 9/24/14, Øyvind Lode <[email protected]> wrote: > First of all I must say that I don't regret upgrading my 4s to iOS 8. > However, VoiceOver crashes all the time on my 4s. > I have not found a pattern to all the crashes. > The good thing is that VO at least restarts when it decide to die on me. > But it crashes at least 10-15 times a day and I know when it crashed > VO is on, screen curtain on etc is announced. > I have done a reset - reset to factory settings but still the same. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: 24. september 2014 13:53 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: IOS is complete crap with VoiceOver > > Doing as David suggests is probably best, but it might also be the > case that your voice was turned off. Try a three finger double tap to > toggle the voice on and off. > > Also, if you have the home button set as your VoiceOver short cut, try > a triple tap of the home button. Recycling VoiceOver helps me in > similar situations. Maybe you can use Siri to turn VoiceOver off and > then back on as well. > > I've seen a couple of posts now to where IOS 8 with it's VoiceOver > bugs is compared to blindness specific products or older smart phone > technologies, like Windows Mobile running Mobile Accessibility. IMHO, > one of the great things about Apple and their commitment to making > their main stream products accessible is that we get treated the same > as the rest of their main stream customers. I fear that if we lower > the bar with our expectations then we're no better off then when we > use those so called blind ghetto products that so many people are > quick to thumb their noses at. Let's give Apple credit where credit is > due, but let's just not roll over like blind Uncle Tom's being happy > with whatever accessibility Apple thinks we'll be content with. > > On 09/24/2014 12:18 AM, David Chittenden wrote: >> When VO goes quiet like that, take your fingers away from the iPhone. >> iOS is performing memory management. Give a chance for iOS / VO to catch up. >> Something similar occurred with iOS 7 when it first came out. Unlike >> blindness specific poducts which can take six months to a year to be >> fixed, Apple's history is to take one-three months. Let's see what >> happens. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 24 Sep 2014, at 14:49, Brian Fischler <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I'm sorry but VoiceOver on my 5S has now complete crap on IOS 8 as >>> for the second time today VoiceOver has completely crapped out while >>> tapping the screen at the same time a push notification comes >>> through. VoiceOVer just dies and if I press the home button and tell >>> Siri to tell Siri to turn VO on Siri tells me VO is already on. Ok, >>> really then why am I hearing nothing but clicks. Then I go to press >>> the power on/off button and the home button to restart the phone and >>> now that doesn't work as I hear the photo being taken sound. Really impressive job with IOS8 Apple. >>> I'm sorry but this IOS 8 release with all of its bugs is total crap >>> and a really piss poor job by Apple for the blind community. If you >>> haven't upgraded yet don't until 8.1 and that is if Apple can be >>> bothered to actually make some VO changes in that one as it is >>> obvious there engineers are more focused on other areas and >>> VoiceOver is at the bottom of the food chain. Time to start at least >>> listening to what Droid is doin > g, never thought I would say that having been on the iPhone since the > 3GS and completely shifting all my products to Apple, but this release > and the > 35 or so VO bugs is making me start to think maybe Apple isn't the answer. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the >>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by >>> default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of >>> this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, >>> please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting >>> on the list itself. 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