Hi Neal,
And you have to also take into consideration that iTunes somehow still
has a reputation for being clunky, slow and well, inaccessible and very
hard to use. I see so many messages on here where people say things “I
avoid iTunes if I can” or “I hate iTunes” or and so on. I used to use
Winamp and Windows Media player a bit and I am not saying Winamp doesn’t
have good hot key navigation and so on, but iTunes has been my choice
for a long time of course largely due to the fact that I started using
iOS devices 5 years ago and I decided that to get the most of my iOS
device I better learn how I can get the most out of iTunes.
Could iTunes be better? Of course it could and I hope in time it will
improve, but it is very accessible and once you understand the basic
principles about syncing, the different libraries and areas such as your
libraries, your devices and the iTunes store it really is quite nice.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
Behalf Of *Neal Ewers
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 9:37 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
This does raise an interesting point. Sometimes we think things are not
accessible because they really aren’t, or at least parts of them are
not. But sometimes, if there is a totally different interface as there
is in iTunes 12 and things do not look like we are used to seeing, we
may think they just don’t work. Sometimes, parts of them really don’t
work. The only way to know this is to actually update yourself and check
it out. This is what I am about to do.
Thanks all for your feedback.
Neal
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Colin Matthews
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:14 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
Hahahahaha you got me there!
Yes not getting that apps what’s new info is on the Mac version!
I posted to the list to confirm that to you! *smile* to let you know
that it was not a jaws problem!
Ok iTunes12 is almost totally accessible!
Colin
On 4 Nov 2014, at 08:46, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
I guess “fully accessible” can be subjective. I heard that on the Mac
version of iTunes it is also not possible to read the What’s New section
of apps. Maybe I was misinformed, but while the Windows version also is
very accessible and in some ways I think is nicer than before, it does
have a few oddities or things where it is more involved to do something
and not being able to see what is new when there is an app update is
something one can work around, but it’s unfortunate.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Colin Matthews
*Sent:*Tuesday, November 04, 2014 12:39 AM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*Re: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
Hi!
Sorry Neal I do not understand why you think iTunes12 is not accessible!
Unless your talking about the windows version!
On the Mac iTunes12 is fully accessible but people have not liked the
new layout and have found it a bit tricky to get used to!
But everything is labeled and there are key strokes to move from say
Music to others like Apps or Tones!
And because of other posts those commands [with a different key] are
available in the Windows version as well!
On the Mac Command+any of the numbers 1 through 9 and 0 takes you to one
of the options and on Windows i believe its the control key with any of
the numbers!
But the bottom line is that iTunes12 is accessible!
If you do not like how it works or the layout thats a different!
HTH Colin
On 4 Nov 2014, at 06:43, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com
<mailto:miller...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,
Alan, you are not correct. If you choose to erase all content and
settings from the phone, you’ll still keep the version of iOS that
was installed before doing the erase. The only way you get updated
is if you restore through iTunes itself.
On Nov 4, 2014, at 12:27 AM, Neal Ewers
<neal.ew...@ravenswood.org <mailto:neal.ew...@ravenswood.org>>
wrote:
Alan, while I am no expert on this matter, I was told yesterday
by Apple Accessibility that if I restored, the restore would
install the current OS which, as of this writing, is 8.1.
I think Apple tries hard to insure that people keep up with the
latest software. This is also why they no longer sell iTunes
11.4. My wife has an older version and wants to get the same
version I have which is 11.4. I was told that this could no
longer be gotten from apple and if we did find a third party
download of 11.4 Apple would not support it. So, in order to use
iTunes to update to 8.1, my wife will have to update to iTunes
12. It’s lack of total accessibility will not bother her because
she doesn’t use a screen reader, but it sure does effect others
in this situation and people who need to restore.
Neal
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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Alan Lemly
*Sent:*Monday, November 03, 2014 9:46 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
If I'm following this thread correctly, one cannot choose,
Settings, General, Reset, Erase all content and settings and
still maintain the current iOS that was on the phone at the time
of doing the reset. I'm puzzled why there's no option to reset
the device without getting rid of the operating system in the
process. Is my understanding correct?
Alan Lemly
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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:*Sunday, November 02, 2014 3:05 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
Yes, as far as I know if you try a restore and a new version of
iOS is available it will restore to the newest version. I
thought you had upgraded to iOS 8 after the 8.1 update came out?
Regards,
Sieghard
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<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Pablo Morales
*Sent:*Sunday, November 02, 2014 12:14 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
Hi Sieghard
Yes, it is a good question.
Why If I am running IOs 7.1.2, I want to reinstall IOs 7.1.2 again?
Well, it is because at the last days, I am looking some problems
with my phone. For example, my iPhone is not telling me who is
calling, and it is maybe around 3 weeks ago. Now, in the last 4
days, VO is crashing, no reason why.
More over, I am noticing some little problems using the phone,
like the same problems that a reinstallation fix. But, I
understand that because apple wants, I can not reinstall the
same IOs 7.1.2 on my phone, when I didn’t install IOs 8?
It is true?
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:*Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:15 PM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*RE: restoring iPhone to the same IOs
Hi Pablo,
As Christopher pointed out, you can’t go to iOS 7 at this point.
Just having the iOS 7.1.2 software file on your computer doesn’t
do anything, if you want to manually restore from a downloaded
IPSW file you have to use the Shift+Enter command on the Restore
button. This will open a standard Windows Open File dialogue,
here you would now browse to the folder where your IPSW file is
located and you would select it. But as I said, this can only be
done successfully if whichever IPSW file you have is still
valid/signed by Apple.
If you don’t mind me asking, if you had iOS 7.1.2 on your 5S,
why did you want to restore to the same software? Your only
option now is to do a restore which means that the latest iOS
version will be downloaded and your phone will be restored to
iOS 8.1.
Regards,
Sieghard
*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]*On
Behalf Of*Pablo Morales
*Sent:*Saturday, November 01, 2014 11:05 AM
*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*restoring iPhone to the same IOs
Hi all.
I downloaded the IOs 7.1.2, and I followed the steps about how
rename the file downloaded, and all these steps. Maybe I am
wrong, but I thought that if I have the IOs7.1.2 file stored in
my computer, and my iPhone is running IOs 7.1.2, I was able to
reinstall IOs7.1.2 again. But iTunes is saying that an unknown
error is happening and the restore can not be done. Now I
tried to do in 2 different computers, one running the last
iTunes version, and the other running the previous version of
iTunes, I guess 11.3.1.2 But the same error.
I was wrong thinking that If I am using IOs 7.1.2 in my iPhone
5s, and if I have the IOs 7.1.2 file in my computer I was able
to reinstall this IOs in my iPhone again?
If I didn’t update my iPhone, but I want to reinstall the
current IOs that I have in my iPhone, and I have the IOs file of
my current version stored in my computer, is no way to reinstall
the IOs again?
Thanks
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