Exactly well said! Please people leave the sarcasm behind it's not helping you in any way!
Jose Lomeli Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Hi Terrie, > > Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now I > will just support you and add a few thoughts. > I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and > having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen what > not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who don't have work > and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so well off, but I can > assure them that their situation is nothing compared to that of half the > population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean anything to make these > comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful replies I thought maybe a > reminder of how good we have it living in free countries like the US, Canada, > England and so on. > Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of these > messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of them) who > may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that and if you > have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values. > > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Terrie Terlau > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody > gift me please! > > Hello everyone, > I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I > don't think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh > things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask > for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside > of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From the > name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native > English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where > asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it > does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate > among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we > have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn > independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set that makes them empowered > in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I > understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to > him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain > that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't have > what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find > resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our > tone of responses. > > I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the > info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a > part of a supportive community. Please let's think about saying no in a more > compassionate way. > Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with varying > perspectives, Terrie Terlau > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > ram kalia > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM > To: viphone > Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me > please! > > Hello friends i really dam love this product knfb but unable to purchase the > same due to lack of money is there a way to get it as a > gift or free i really need this pleasepleaseplease somebody gift > it on this xmas or as a new year gift > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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