I know nothing of the Nigerian princess, Andy and to add to another post you made, yes he has an iPhone but that may have been a gift as well. For example, my nephew Luke got an iPad for Christmas so just because he has a phone/pad, doesn’t mean anything. > On Dec 25, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Andy Baracco <[email protected]> wrote: > > But what is the difference between this solicitation and that of the nigerian > princess? I might even decide to give this kind of gift in this situation, > but not based on a vague solicitation from a total stranger. > > Andy > > > -----Original Message----- From: Jose Lomeli > Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:56 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody > gift me please! > > Exactly well said! Please people leave the sarcasm behind it's not helping > you in any way! > > Jose Lomeli > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 25, 2014, at 10:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Terrie, >> >> Beautifully said and if you hadn't done so I was going to do so myself, now >> I will just support you and add a few thoughts. >> I agree that asking for this is not OK, but being married to a Filipina and >> having travelled to several east Asian third-world countries I have seen >> what not having anything means. Some of the blind folk on here who don't >> have work and are on a very tight budget may think they are not so well off, >> but I can assure them that their situation is nothing compared to that of >> half the population of the planet. I know it doesn't mean anything to make >> these comparisons, but given the several very ungraceful replies I thought >> maybe a reminder of how good we have it living in free countries like the >> US, Canada, England and so on. >> Given it's Christmas today I really wonder about the sarcasm in many of >> these messages and it was probably expressed by people (at least some of >> them) who may consider themselves Christians. If you do call yourself that >> and if you have replied to that, maybe you need to examine your values. >> >> >> Best regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Terrie Terlau >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:51 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody >> gift me please! >> >> Hello everyone, >> I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, but I >> don't think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some fairly harsh >> things to say about ram's request. I totally agree that it is not OK to ask >> for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this list. However, let's step outside >> of our own United States shoes and into someone else's for a moment. From >> the name and the English usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native >> English speaker and may be from another country and another culture where >> asking for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it >> does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% unemployment rate >> among blind people, depending on how you figure the stats. We know that we >> have many blind people who have not had the opportunities to learn >> independence, self-sufficiency, and the skill set that makes them empowered >> in this world. Given all that, I would like to explain to Ram that I >> understand his/her need for the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to >> him/her and that it is not a good idea to ask. I would also like to explain >> that I feel very sad that Ram and many of us, blind and sighted, don't have >> what we need in this world. I send compassion and hope that Ram can find >> resources to get what is needed. I also hope that we as a list change our >> tone of responses. >> >> I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list and the >> info and help that you share. I have learned so much and have felt such a >> part of a supportive community. 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