Definitely some poor judgement here and all that. But what if a friend was over and maybe your computer was on and your friend knew you were on this list and they posted some stupid message as yourself, you would probably hope not to be banned from this list. Anyhow, I guess it's time to drop it and move on. We don't know anything about Ram, where he/she is from and for all I know he/she is 18 years old and a friend really did do this thinking it was great fun. Isn't it innocent until "proven" guilty?
Happy New Year all, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joanne Chua Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 12:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody gift me please! I think the mods should really take some action against such behaviour. It is a spam for the list. Joke from a friend of a member, who manage to log in as the member, and manage to post such thing to an email list is rather, unacceptable. Is like, i took my mum's credit card, and wne to get myself a new iphone, then, i try to explain to the bank that, "oops, sorry, it is just meant to be a joke for my mum"... I think, such behaviour should be condam by the moderators, either looking at, temporary ban or even permernant ban. If, no action taken for such individual, how can we make sure than, members on this list will treat each other with respect? We are not talking about $0.99C worth of gift, we are talking about potentially $99.95 worth of gift that, what, coming out as a "oops, sorry, just a joke, for the spirit of the season, forgive me"? It is not a matter of either other people see the need of such individual, and willing to give it or not, it is the matter of, this particular individual is fooling us around, and being somewhat disrespectful to the guidelines, objectives, and to other members that is on the list, not to say it is somewhat disrespectful to the list owners and moderators. i think, in some sense, it might even consider as a criminal act. Joanne Chua The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion. Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad > On 26 Dec 2014, at 17:41, Eileen Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Joke or no joke, where are the > monitors of this group? For a member of this list serve to post a prank > should be band from the list. There have been many posts on this thread that > are beginning to clutter up my inbox. This thread needs to be closed. I know > I'm not a monitor or the list owner, but enough is enough with this. If the > monitors want to place me on monitor status for voicing my opinion, then go > right ahead. The members of this list shouldn't have to put up with this kind > of warped sense of humor. JMO. > > Eileen > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Cristóbal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> More likely he didn't realise the dust up his post would cause and how >> poorly it would be received. Whether a friend did indeed do it, which I >> don’t' really believe at all, hopefully this whole thread will go away now. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Kerri G >> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody >> gift me please! >> >> I cannot believe this. Someone was willing to send you money for this and >> it’s a joke? >>> On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:40 PM, ram kalia <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> sorry friends don't fight my friend screwd all I already scolded >>> him please understand the mind of college teenager being adults you >>> all please ignore and enjoy don't fight for any unintentionally done >>> mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry >>> xmas and happy new year to all . >>> >>>> On 12/26/14, ram kalia <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend >>>> wrote this message using my id he was joking and nothing at all I >>>> kicked him he was just playing and nothing serious at all just >>>> holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and happy xmas and new >>>> year to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all. I have >>>> knfb already sorry for my friends behavior . >>>> >>>>>> On 12/26/14, Kerri G <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers' >>>>>> On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator. >>>>>> >>>>>> So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this >>>>>> person, and while whether his request was appropriate on this list >>>>>> or not, I am sad to say that the bashers and flamers will not be >>>>>> dealt with at all, and that is very sad indeed. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are >>>>>> giving this person all kinds of grief for posting something that >>>>>> may or may not have been appropriate. None of us lowly list >>>>>> members have the power to say, unequivocally whether this person's >>>>>> post was appropriate or not, so I think this thread should end >>>>>> until the moderators get back and handle it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail, >>>>>> and see nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for >>>>>> the sole purpose of helping others out. >>>>>> >>>>>> Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate >>>>>> at this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very proud. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Victor Gouveia >>>>>> Vice-President >>>>>> Training Coordinator >>>>>> VIP Tech >>>>>> Tel: 1-888-640-6661 >>>>>> Fax: 1-888-640-6669 >>>>>> Home: [email protected] >>>>>> Work: [email protected] >>>>>> Limiting Disabilities with Limitless Possibilities >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Terrie Terlau >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money >>>>>> somebody gift me please! >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>> I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line, >>>>>> but I don't think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some >>>>>> fairly harsh things to say about ram's request. I totally agree >>>>>> that it is not OK to ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this >>>>>> list. However, let's step outside of our own United States shoes >>>>>> and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the English >>>>>> usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker >>>>>> and may be from another country and another culture where asking >>>>>> for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it >>>>>> does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75% >>>>>> unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure >>>>>> the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had >>>>>> the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the >>>>>> skill set that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that, >>>>>> I would like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for >>>>>> the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to him/her and that it is not >>>>>> a good idea to ask. >>>>>> I >>>>>> would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many >>>>>> of us, blind and sighted, don't have what we need in this world. I >>>>>> send compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is >>>>>> needed. I also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list >>>>>> and the info and help that you share. I have learned so much and >>>>>> have felt such a part of a supportive community. 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