I figured that you had not moderated the list because, just like us, you are
humans. You were probably celebrating the Holidays just like we were. You
were spending quality time with friends and families. I don't blame either
of you for not stopping the thread in a timely manner. I respect the work
you do for the list and the time it takes you to do it. Keep up the good
work, both you and Raul, and have a happy new year, too.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cara Quinn" <caraqu...@caraquinn.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 3:20 AM
Subject: Moderator Note -was- Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack
of money somebody gift me please!
Hi All,
Firstly, happy holidays to those who celebrate various end-of-year holidays
and joy also to those who do not. You all rock! :)
Now, you all sure love drama here! :) -And, for the record, I am posting on
this now as there is a bit of an outcry from several here for moderation.
I've been away from the list today so have not seen all this until now. I
will write a more appropriate and more complete and descriptive note quite
honestly, when I am actually awake. :)
I find it interesting that pretty much everyone knows this thread should end
but in fact, no one is simply not posting to it anymore. You all have the
power to end this topic yourselves. -Yes? I get it. You want to chime in
about something that is important to you. We all do from time to time. :)
However, if you desire silence, then be silent. If you desire respect, be
respectful.
If you need an official directive, then please all, close this topic
immediately.
Raul and I will deal with whatever aspects of this whole matter there are,
which need to be dealt with.
Please just bear with us a bit and be kind / respectful to each other *big
smile*
Talk with you soon and apologies for the list clutter.
Cheers!
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On Dec 26, 2014, at 1:39 AM, Joanne Chua <shuang.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the mods should really take some action against such behaviour. It
is a spam for the list. Joke from a friend of a member, who manage to log in
as the member, and manage to post such thing to an email list is rather,
unacceptable.
Is like, i took my mum's credit card, and wne to get myself a new iphone,
then, i try to explain to the bank that, "oops, sorry, it is just meant to
be a joke for my mum"...
I think, such behaviour should be condam by the moderators, either looking
at, temporary ban or even permernant ban.
If, no action taken for such individual, how can we make sure than, members
on this list will treat each other with respect?
We are not talking about $0.99C worth of gift, we are talking about
potentially $99.95 worth of gift that, what, coming out as a "oops, sorry,
just a joke, for the spirit of the season, forgive me"?
It is not a matter of either other people see the need of such individual,
and willing to give it or not, it is the matter of, this particular
individual is fooling us around, and being somewhat disrespectful to the
guidelines, objectives, and to other members that is on the list, not to say
it is somewhat disrespectful to the list owners and moderators.
i think, in some sense, it might even consider as a criminal act.
Joanne Chua
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On 26 Dec 2014, at 17:41, Eileen Misrahi <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote:
Joke or no joke, where are the
monitors of this group? For a member of this list serve to post a prank
should be band from the list. There have been many posts on this thread
that are beginning to clutter up my inbox. This thread needs to be closed.
I know I'm not a monitor or the list owner, but enough is enough with
this. If the monitors want to place me on monitor status for voicing my
opinion, then go right ahead. The members of this list shouldn't have to
put up with this kind of warped sense of humor. JMO.
Eileen
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Cristóbal <crismuno...@gmail.com> wrote:
More likely he didn't realise the dust up his post would cause and how
poorly it would be received. Whether a friend did indeed do it, which I
don’t' really believe at all, hopefully this whole thread will go away
now.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kerri G
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money somebody
gift me please!
I cannot believe this. Someone was willing to send you money for this and
it’s a joke?
On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:40 PM, ram kalia <rameshkalia...@gmail.com> wrote:
sorry friends don't fight my friend screwd all I already scolded
him please understand the mind of college teenager being adults you
all please ignore and enjoy don't fight for any unintentionally done
mistake he is also feeling sorry for this . do forgive him and merry
xmas and happy new year to all .
On 12/26/14, ram kalia <rameshkalia...@gmail.com> wrote:
hello friends sorry for the inconvience caused actually my friend
wrote this message using my id he was joking and nothing at all I
kicked him he was just playing and nothing serious at all just
holidays funny activity sorry ignore this and happy xmas and new
year to all take it in a good sense and ignore love you all. I have
knfb already sorry for my friends behavior .
On 12/26/14, Kerri G <kerri.g1...@icloud.com> wrote:
I would like to ask you, what do you entitle “bashers and flamers'
On Dec 25, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Victor Gouveia
<victor.gouv...@rogers.com>
wrote:
I think that this matter would be best dealt with by a moderator.
So far I've seen nothing but bashers and flamers flaming this
person, and while whether his request was appropriate on this list
or not, I am sad to say that the bashers and flamers will not be
dealt with at all, and that is very sad indeed.
This is Christmas, for those who celebrate it, yet people are
giving this person all kinds of grief for posting something that
may or may not have been appropriate. None of us lowly list
members have the power to say, unequivocally whether this person's
post was appropriate or not, so I think this thread should end
until the moderators get back and handle it.
Either way, I believe it's a shame to have to come to my e-mail,
and see nothing but hatred being spewed on a list that is there for
the sole purpose of helping others out.
Merry Christmas, or what ever other holiday you happen to celebrate
at this time of year, I'm sure you're making your religion very
proud.
Victor Gouveia
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-----Original Message----- From: Terrie Terlau
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
somebody gift me please!
Hello everyone,
I am not a moderator and I apologize if I am stepping over a line,
but I don't think I am, and I need to share this. We have had some
fairly harsh things to say about ram's request. I totally agree
that it is not OK to ask for a gift like the KNFB Reader from this
list. However, let's step outside of our own United States shoes
and into someone else's for a moment. From the name and the English
usage, I am guessing that Ram may not be a native English speaker
and may be from another country and another culture where asking
for gifts from strangers may not have the bad connotations that it
does in the States. Also, in the States, we have a 60-75%
unemployment rate among blind people, depending on how you figure
the stats. We know that we have many blind people who have not had
the opportunities to learn independence, self-sufficiency, and the
skill set that makes them empowered in this world. Given all that,
I would like to explain to Ram that I understand his/her need for
the KNFB Reader, but that we can't give it to him/her and that it is
not a good idea to ask.
I
would also like to explain that I feel very sad that Ram and many
of us, blind and sighted, don't have what we need in this world. I
send compassion and hope that Ram can find resources to get what is
needed. I also hope that we as a list change our tone of responses.
I hope the above is not out of line. I deeply appreciate this list
and the info and help that you share. I have learned so much and
have felt such a part of a supportive community. Please let's think
about saying no in a more compassionate way.
Many blessings to members of all religions and to persons with
varying perspectives, Terrie Terlau
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of ram kalia
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:50 AM
To: viphone
Subject: unable to purchase knfb reader due to lack of money
somebody gift me please!
Hello friends i really dam love this product knfb but unable to
purchase the same due to lack of money is there a way to get it as a
gift or free i really need this pleasepleaseplease somebody gift
it on this xmas or as a new year gift
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