On Sunday, 01/08/2006 at 08:28 PST, Barton Robinson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm still not sure how much of VE is Marketecture, but if
> it just adds complexity and another set of tools, doesn't
> sound like much value. So, how do you provide the NEW VM
> system's person with the education and tools in a way
> that is intuitive to them with low frustration?
> Which is how Mr. Nathan started this thread?

I've seen it working on a z/VM system, so it's not just "Marketecture". In 
its first iteration it attempts to meet the needs of a System 
Administrator, not a Systems Programmer, since it is the *admins* who 
don't want to deal with the ... idiosynchrasies (?) ... of a z/VM system.

Alan Altmark
z/VM Development
IBM Endicott

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