> -----Original Message-----
> From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Web-based administration for z/VM
> 

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> 
> I agree that in many (majority?) of today's systems there is 
> the sysprog 
> and then there's "everyone else".  But it is my perception 
> that larger 
> companies seem to be trying to reestablish the once-common 
> "middle class" 
> of sysadmin.  That is, the people who are charged with the day-to-day 
> management of the system, but who will "contact their system support 
> personnel" when things go wrong.  I think this is likely a 
> salary issue: 
> Pay more for sysprogs, less for sysadmins.  They want to 
> grow, but not 
> hire more sysprogs just to handle the routine tasks of system 
> management.
> 
> (I'm not particularly interested in drawing the line between 
> the two; it's 
> fuzzy at best, and it's a decision best left to you, the customer.)
> 
> Alan Altmark
> z/VM Development
> IBM Endicott
> 

May I be a bit "tacky" (well, I'm going to be anyway). The main
difference that I am aware of between a "sysadmin" and a "sysprog",
other than title and salary, is in the majority of cases, a "sysadmin"
only knows the tools for day to day administration and does not always
really understand the "why" of what they do. I.e. many do things "by
rote" or using a "cookbook". Hopefully, a "sysprog" understands "why"
one does something rather than just "how". Now, a good "sysadmin" will
likely be motivated enough, and hopefully be encouraged, to learn the
"why" so that they can advance. 

--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
UICI Insurance Center
Information Technology

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