That brought back memories of when we installed 9370s world wide back in
1988-1990 with PROFS/OVVM.  We had training classes in England with
students from various parts of Europe.  The students were instructed
bring their keyboards from their home countries.  As I remember, that
French keyboard had seven keys for the right hand that were different
from the English keyboard.  Of course, the instructors had to say "Hash
CP", not "Pound CP" when speaking to the English students.

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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 10:35 AM
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Subject: Re: SYSTEM NETID and CPUIDs


> And I think that anyone who uses a node name that differs from the 
> System_Name must have converted to VM from an MVS background.

Ever had to run multiple PROFS/OVVM 'systems'? Multiple nodeids on the
one VM system? Don't ask about running 2nd level VMs as that takes up
extra disk space etc. etc. I didn't make this decision, I arrived just
in time to support it. Oh yes, and the HPO system was hitting it's
supportable user limit. Luckily we managed to get things converted to
XA/SP 2 just in time.

Another place had logically isolated its bureau users from each other
utilising RACF/VM and a few CP mods. All different RSCS machines and
nodeids.

The (probably still current) VM std at a large VM using company of my
and Rob's acquaintance uses nodeids to set up various things like
default SFS pools, access to various tailored versions of products etc.
When you're running Europe on one box complex with different
requirements then you need some way of separating this lot from each
other. This seemed as good a way as any. Nice and simple. If one box in
the complex goes down the users just logon to a different one. No need
to bring up 2nd level VM systems etc. No MVS converts in the building.

My particular favourite setup was that of the French speaking Swiss
users who logged onto a Belgian box that was physically located in
Germany but supported in The Netherlands via a network that was
supported out of England.

Ah yes... those were the days...

Rod
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