Where is Lyn Hadley when you need him? Oh, well. He probably would not be able to budge developers from that alternate universe. That behavior is perfectly reasonable in a universe where there is only one operating system.
I have not run into this as yet, but I think it perfectly reasonable to require R/W access only when it is necessary to write on the disk. I also think it proper to have R./O access wherever possible to prevent accidental or unexpected writes from unknown sources (such as ICKDSF). Regards, Richard Schuh -----Original Message----- From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Gribbin, EDS Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 4:08 AM To: VMESA-L@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: ICKDSF R17 CPVOL LIST - R/W DASD Required Folks, Great fun, but back to the topic <sigh>. I am told that ICKDSF Development is saying that R17's behaviour is perfectly reasonable and predictable and are currently refusing to budge.= If you feel that ICKDSF is, "being rude" then, please, CALL IT IN. Development won't consider fixing it all the time it's just the current = handful of customers who're complaining. Specifically, I'm asking for ICKDSF CPVOL LIST to always work when presented with a R/O disk - this will give me back my Disaster Recovery = procedures. I have also expressed concern that when it's presented with a= R/W disk it's updating the VTOC, "under the covers" but, frankly, as my = disks never need to go anywhere near a zOS system, this is a much lesser = concern from where I'm sitting and, to get the big worry fixed, I'll play= along if necessary. Development are reportedly taking the attitude, "You only have to do it = onece, so what's the problem?" I have asked my man to point out to them = that it's quite a big problem when one is faced with several hundred volumes and has to request Security changes to gain R/W access to Cylinde= r 0. There's also no guarantee that a volume won't be missed (or re- formatted with an earlier version of ICKDSF) so, all the time this behaviour is possible, my procedures are no longer bullet proof. The word= back, however, is that they're not listening. Please, help me make 'em listen. Raise your own PMR today. With thanks in anticipation. Jeff (BTW Great side-chat - The images it invokes make the pain generated by = this problem almost-worthwhile <g>.)