On 5/2/06, Jaroslaw Rafa raj-at-ap.krakow.pl wrote:
............ napisal(a):
> As one who normally uses e-mail as a rapid and expedient form of
> communication, where dialogists generally remember what was just said
> and are immediately interested in what is new, I am accustomed to
> seeing newer material at the top, which is how most mainstream e-mail
> clients (that I have used, anyway) format it.
Hm... I'm pretty sure that "mainstream" here means "created by Microsoft" or
"following the Microsoft way", because it's Microsoft who first introduced
replying at the top, and then so many people adopted it :-(. But for me,
when we speak about Internet software, "mainstream" are people who still
remember what was the Internet before Microsoft ;-), and the software
created by them. This software always puts new text below the quote.
Yes, Jaroslaw, you are correct. Micro$oft, like it or not, is the
author (or, at least, current vendor) of the most widely used
(mainstream) e-mail clients.
And please don't lecture me about "people who still remember when". I
was BBS'ing before the Internet was invented. My first computer had 2K
of RAM, and reset whenever the refrigerator kicked in!
> There is generally not
> enough time to pick and sort through previous statements and edit it
> for a statement-for-statement chronology, though I often do so when
In this case, it's better not to quote at all. If both parties remember what
was just said and are interested only in what's new, I don't see any reason
for quoting - and then the "top" or "bottom" problem disappears. And the
messages don't have unneccessary long "tails" consisiting of old text.
Again - and in the context of day-to-day office e-mail, not lists like
this - it's a question of time. People usually, in the course of
typical e-mail exchange, want to fire off a quick reply, not "waste"
time (yes, that's debatable) editing, even if that means highlighting
and deleting the text below, but rather just leave it there. Go with
the flo, bro! :-)
All that said - and this is the MOST important (and, I hope, last)
thing I want to say to you: These quotes to which you are so
vehemently objecting relate NOT to the netiquette of lists and forums,
but rather to the way "typical" e-mail is conducted. If you were to
read the entire message, you would see that I fully agree with editing
for context, when in forums such as this, as I am doing here.
(please refer back to
http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2006-May/054790.html)
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