Hi Fred/all, > A bit short on accuracy there, Patrick. :-)
By posting Tom's comments, I wasn't intending to suggest my support for them. Rather, I was taking a bit of a pointy stick and pushing it into the vort nest :-) I personally have seen nothing to convince me that Joe/similar cells actually work as advertised. However, in trying to keep an open mind - and explore other possibilities - I've been getting increasingly frustrated by the disconnect of the various groups out there. On Y!, there are a few individuals discussing theory based on known science, or what might be considered reasonable extrapolations to it. On the whole, though, there's a lot of Orgone breathers (which may/may not prove valid), attempting to discuss cell theory/construction without really knowing how the thing works (assuming it does). However, on Y! you also seem to have a decent number of folks actually doing hands-on experiments. Here (vortex) we've got some very well grounded scientific expertise, with a decent amount of open mindedness. Over the last few weeks I've seen a number of plausible (and a few not so) theories evolve here as to how these, or similar, cells might function. What I've not seen here are any suggested protocols for simple experiments to work towards proving - or otherwise - any of these theories. What I'm attempting to say - admittedly in a very long winded manner - is that to move our understanding forward we really need the enthusiastic hands-on approach typified by the Y! guys to be coupled with the solid(ish!) science found in places like this. Now, I don't know if some of you have been experimenting and exchanging info off-list; if so, please direct flames to my personal mail account. My challenge: how about a few simple protocols for reproducible experiments to test some of the theories previously discussed here? Cheers, Patrick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.2/329 - Release Date: 02/05/2006
