On Jun 1, 2007, at 6:19 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:

I am not sure a virtual current needs to be invoked until a real one, which would point to a mundane ion wind effect, has been ruled out. Can you measure the current delivered by your flyback GOB?


Note that when the ping pong balls are added, suppressing external ion breeze, the direction of rotation changes from that when an ion breeze is made.

A real current, consisting of only electrons, can not produce a net thrust in a vacuum. It is only the effect of a gradient on the virtual current that can produce true net thrust. BTW, I don't think that is a Biefeld Brown effect is it? Isn't his effect based on DC capacitors? I'm not up on his stuff.

Some data from the web site regarding current follows.

From the bottom of http://www.fw.hu/bmiklos2000/unipolar.htm:
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Thruster on the next two videos are measured out. Measured data:

U=25kV DC, I=0.04mA, P=1W, F=3.77mN, electrodes are 13cm from centerline (arm=0.13m):

full15.wmv  (2.1 MB)

full16.wmv  (2.2 MB)

full17.wmv  (5.4 MB)

full18.wmv  (4.1 MB)

halfclosed1.wmv  (2,6 MB)

The next thruster (presented in video `halfclosed1.wmv`) is put into a grounded Faraday cage, and still works! It works in Faraday cage as well as in insulated cage. This is the prove than it is no an electromagnetic effect:

faraday1.wmv  (1.8 MB)

Data of this thruster: U=25kV, I=0.08mA, P=2W. Whitout hermeticall box, with ion-wind, it makes 55 rotations in 1 minute.

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Regards,

Horace Heffner

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