----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miklos Borbas Thruster??
> > On Jun 2, 2007, at 6:59 AM, Michel Jullian wrote: > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 4:15 PM >> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Miklos Borbas Thruster?? >> >> >> ... >>> I suspect the asymmetry in the the shape of the field in front of the >>> ping pong balls is important. I expect the field attracts ions >>> towards the balls and actually makes a wind around the balls. A >>> surface charge builds up on exterior the balls reducing the effect, >>> but the ion wind probably carries away enough of it to maintain >>> itself. However, the smoke test didn't show any of this happening? >>> It should show up in a smoke test. I suppose the much larger radial >>> wind might cover that up somewhat. >> >> Mmm, which radial wind? > > The stator wire tips are oriented radially. Their ion wind is > oriented radially. The field of the balls deflects that radial wind > towards themselves. That deflection is clockwise as viewed from the > top, for the device in the first photos of the web site. >> In any case it would be hard to see anything while the rotor >> rotates, but one could block the rotor and release the incense >> smoke near the stator's emitters. If our explanation is correct it >> should rise and flow towards the front of the ping pong balls. > > Well, it should create a kind of vortex action (how on topic can we > get here?) lol! Yes, it should have a vortex shape. > It should deflect the radial flow from the axis stator > wires tangentially toward the front of the balls. I'm thinking here > in terms of the first device, which had what I call the "stator > wires", or corona wires, arrayed radially around the shaft at the > same level as the balls. The ion flow from those wires, even in the > complete absence of the rotor, should be radial. Without the rotor, leaving just its supporting and HV connecting spindle as the HV electrode (eg with a conductive ball on it so it doesn't emit), the ion wind from a stator emitter will form a loop in a radial plane, I guess that's what you mean by radial wind? Kyle kindly proposed to do some more tests, a smoke test with the rotor blocked and another one without the rotor (and its spindle bluntes) would be quite instructive! Michel
