I re-read the thread carefully and yes Terry there are two Sarfatti 's 
commenting on the Haisch theory. Jack is undecided but David feels it is 
impossible.

I remain undecided about the Haisch Moddel method of extracting the energy but 
must point out that Bernard isn't describing his method of extracting energy - 
the analogy in question only demonstrates that energy is present if we know how 
to take it. As Jones says regarding David's statement "This is correct, as far 
as it goes. The Haisch patent probably will not work for gain for this reason, 
without more." the Casimir Lamb Pinch is the (more) method they propose to 
extract this energy with and was not addressed by David. Personally I feel you 
need BIASED chemical reactions between these different levels of suppression to 
accumulate energy from the translation in one direction but not in the opposite 
direction where one direction being diatomic and the opposite direction being 
monatomic. I think this is the interim force that leads to condensed matter and 
eventually nuclear reactions.

Regards

Fran

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