1.  well, since theres been testifiying in front of congress and leaks
and unaltered originals sent to media, yeah, actually, we do know for
sure.

2.  the us is a signatory to the un.  the us has agreed to the uns
controll in issues that are not about defense.  in fact, the whole
reason we went into iraq was becuase of them supposedly not doing WHAT
THE UN ORDERED.  so, we went to war, ignoring un dictates, becuase of
un dictates.  sure, that makes sense.

3.  not touching..

4.  it would send a greatmessage to potential allies though.  

5.  so, your the kind of person, if someone cuts you off in traffic,
you go and cut someone else off, and blame it on teh guy that cut you
off?  Saddam and iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11.  NOTHING to do with
Al Quaeda.  Osama bin laden HATES Saddam, becuase he ran iraq as a non
secular state.  Al Quaeda had been known to bomb targets in Iraq
because of that.  not that they were able to get in often, as iraqs
borders were quite tight.  not that they are anymore.  and youre
right.  who speaks for the dead.  who complains that the troops and
equipment that were sent to afghanistan, where those who attacked us
actually ARE, were pulled out and sent to iraq.  ohh, wait.  i do. 
thats right.

6. iraq didnt "butcher" its own people.  its human rights records
against protests suck, but the "mass graves" are those kurds who we
told to revolt, and that wed help them, and then we abandoned them. 
it was a civil war, and any country has the right to defend its
integrity in a civil war.  using the gas we sold him to do it with was
probably the least deadly way, number of casualties wise, to do it
with.  as for the lists of those always dying, that was becuase of un
sanctions that prevented a lot of medicine and other equipment from
getting in, becuase it MIGHT be used in weapons production.  its like
all the laws that prevent people from buying more than one box of
sudafed, becuase you MIGHT make meth with it.

7.  actually, the whole point of the universal service act was that if
there was a draft activation (which is still possible) then there
would already be a change made to the draft (this change) that would
allow that activation to be done non militarily if the person chose. 
those talking about it as the bill to bring back the draft simply dont
know what they are talking about.  the usa does not actually activate
the draft, it simply changes the existing draft laws on the books, by
removing the age sex limits, and giving non military means of service
if you DO get drafted.

8.  nope, its real.  but misstated and fearmongered on line

9.  im a liberal.  except where im conservative.  socialist leanings. 
lets all sing now!  kumbaya my non denominational lord and/or insert
faith or lack thereof here, kumabaya!


now then.  the x prize has been won, and st helens has a stomach ache.
 other than that, dunno.


On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 17:45:13 -0700 (PDT), Kyle Mcallister
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thoughts (or brain droppings, as George Carlin would
> say):
> 
> 1. We will never know for sure what photos and or
> evidence was doctored and by who. This tends to happen
> with things like this, the goings on with politics and
> the war.
> 
> 2. Since when does the United Nations dictate our
> policy? I am not a citizen of the UN, or of some
> supposed unified world. I am a strong nationalist, and
> shall remain as such.
> 
> 3. The war has gone on too long. How I personally feel
> it should have been handled I will not comment on
> here, as it would likely cause a flame war, with said
> flames directed at me. However, it should have been
> handled differently, more swiftly, and more
> effectively.
> 
> 4. If the US were to back down, and 'play nice doggie'
> so to speak, that would not send a very good message
> to potential enemies.
> 
> 5. In reply to statements like: "The US is a bunch of
> big bullies, and they are picking on poor deprived
> people of the world that could cause no harm to such a
> powerful nation. Why are they flexing their muscles
> this way?" Can cause no harm? Tell this to those who
> died in the towers; who speaks for the dead? What do
> we say to the dead?
> 
> 6. My personal idea of foreign policy: "Leave us
> alone, we'll leave you alone, assuming you don't go
> around butchering your own people. Be our friend,
> we'll be your friend and will help you. Harm us, and
> we will destroy you." Now, is it a nation's right to
> be able to butcher their own people? I certainly don't
> think so, and if the 'biggest dog on the block'
> doesn't seem to think so either, so much the better.
> 
> 7. Universal Service Act, eh? It appears dead, yet it
> is interesting to consider. I've heard from the media
> that Bush was the one who wanted the draft back, yet
> this nice piece of legislative detritus has been
> formulated by politicians of the more liberal
> persuasion. 2 years of national service...hmmm...well,
> let's see: I've been paying taxes so some people who
> wish to do nothing can declare themselves unfit to
> work, get free heat and power (and much more) while I
> do honest, hard work, try to make ends meet, and
> generally be a good person, and hope I do not freeze
> this winter, because I damn sure wouldn't qualify for
> any help from Uncle Sam. I'd say I have payed my
> 2-year 'debt to society' and then some.
> 
> 8. Addition to above: Is there even a chance that this
> Universal Service Act is a really nice/strange
> internet hoax? The thing is unbelievable to read...
> 
> 9. I'm not a Democrat, Republican, Green, Libertarian,
> Communist Party USA, etc. When you see that nice
> little space on your paper called "None of the above"
> or "Other", think of me.
> 
> So....what's new on the scientific front?
> 
> --Kyle
> 
> 
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