On Fri, 6 May 2005, Nick Palmer wrote: > inconvenience... If Greg is wrong about the SMOT then he is more likely to > be deluded rather than an out and out conman.
Does being deluded include building SMOT and RMOD closed-loop devices and then hallucinating that they're running? That's not fooling oneself. That's psychosis. Maybe he's that crazy, but I put my money on either SMOT being real (5% chance) or Greg simply lying in order to get others to do the work for him (95% chance.) If the SMOT things really worked, then Greg would have piles of evidence, perhaps in the form of eyewitness accounts of numerous people we could call, perhaps in the form of photos and video in the posession of people who would sell. Here's an idea: since fake evidence takes work, and to fool people the fake evidence has to be good, total lack of evidence screams "fraud." An operating closed-loop SMOT would be difficult to PROVE even if one had piles of evidence. But if no closed-loop SMOT ever ran, then suspicion of fraud would be very difficult to prevent, since any "evidence" would take some work to manufacture. If some evidence existed, it wouldn't be "proof," and most people might still be leery of fraud. But if numerous tiny bits of poor evidence existed (blurry photos and unreliable eyewitnesses) then suspicion of fraud would be quite low. > I think anyone should > be concentrating on what he originally called the RMOD which he claimed > turned for days but eventually suffered bearing failure. He has even > uploaded a couple of drawings of this RMOD to his site. I think we should drop all SMOT stuff as a waste of time unlss there is a tiny trace of evidence that Greg's claims were real. Greg can give out a long list of friends who we can question as eyewitnesses to the original event. But if SMOT never ran, then even the eyewitnesses would be a major undertaking in a hoax campaign. Of course, anyone who disagrees is free to pursue SMOT in depth on Greg's yahoo group. If they have success, I'll be happy to have lost the big chance to be part of it. I take responsibility for deciding that even weak fuzzy indications of dishonesty become very serious matters when they're long running and never varying. (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 206-789-0775 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
