Hi Mike,

There is obviously some overlap. In Mills view, hydrogen is
consummed, but JLN has now run this long enough to know that no
hydrogen is consumed in MAHG. This must mean that the power source
is ultimately ZPE and not the hydrino.

***Not so at all.***

Hydrogen is a fuel in BLP reactions, but the reactions are so energetic that an MAHG device could run a **very** long time before all the H atoms react.

Sorry Mike ... but that "long time" has already passed, and it passed a long time ago...

... and still there is a full load of H2 after hundred of hours of OU performance. This is clearly a ZPE phenomenon, and not a hydrino phenomenon.

A mole (Avogadro's number) of molecules of any gas occupies a volume of 22.4 liters at STP. It has a mass equal to the molecular mass expressed in grams = 2. If the volume of a MAHG tube is about a half liter and the vacuum is 80 torrs, then there will be rougly10e20 molecules of H2 in a MAHG tube about 4 milligrams - yet look at the incredible energy created with no loss of gas volume or pressure due to hydrinos. Naudin has performed hundreds of runs now over months, and many of the runs are several hours. I do not know the exact summation details other than the figures which plainly appear on the site, anyone can do the math, but the latest show consistent 50-100 watts of excess in each run. Multiply this by the time period of the run and number of runs and there is absolutely no way that hydrinos could be involved as the tube, containing about four milligrams of H2 initially - which would have shown severe parameter changes, over this time period, due to loss of hydrogen to hydrinos, and there would even be eventual soft x-rays, once they became so shrunken - had they been there. This has not happened !

There are no changes due to hydrino formation. This is NOT a hydrino situation, plain and simple... unless that is, hydrinos form temporarily and then oscillate back - in which case ZPE is still the driving force, and we all know what Randall thinks about ZPE.

He can't have it both ways, and it looks to me like he may have chosen to ride the wrong horse.

Jones

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