Gigi DiMarco <[email protected]> wrote:
> . . . for example what about the heat transferred from the motor to the > water? Jed says it is negligible: we'll show that this is not true, you > will see a photo of the pump gear and you will decide yourself. > I did not *say* it is negligible; Mizuno *proved* it is negligible, by doing an 18-hour calibration. This is not the kind of issue "decide yourself." It is not decided by debate or by appeal to theory. This is the kind of thing you measure and prove by experiment. Once Mizuno proves his point, there is no point to arguing. You could do a million dollar project lasting a year, but you are still wrong. If you find more than a fraction of a watt of heat in the water in your test, that proves your setup -- or your pump -- is not the same as Mizuno's. Questions relating to experimental science must be settled by experiment. Once they are settled, they must be considered closed. We have to move on to other questions. Otherwise no issue will ever be settled; no debate ended; and no progress will be made. It was reasonable to wonder how much heat the pump adds to the water, even though this heat cannot affect the calorimetry or change the conclusion. It was reasonable to wonder, and to ask Mizuno to check. Once he did check, that should have settled the question. The skeptics love to move the goalposts to keep all arguments alive forever. In essence, they are still debating whether hydrogen in palladium can produce 100,000 eV per atom. They move the goalposts down the field, out of the stadium, into the next county. - Jed
