Alain, I must confess that I've some problems to follow your statements. You should stick to the facts not to general theories or books. I, normally, run a company and at the end of the month I provide the food for a few dozens families, including mine. I've no time for cospiracies. I, personally, do not think that LENR are real but we are speaking about some specific experiments: it took 15 minute to me to understand that electrical power measurements were wrong in the TPR2. It's my job, I design and build power electonics and usually I use smart methods to measure power. In the TPR2 there was a hidden wattmeter; I simply found it and I wrote to Hoistadt. Rossi was very aggressive against me, whereas normally he lets people say whatever they want; so I'm sure I was right.
Two of us measured and discovered the Defkalion trick in the water flow measurement (or do you think it was really Gamberale?); if you like I can send you the proofs privately. It seems to me that only you and Peter Gluck are still confident that the hyperion works [in the meantime Defkalion disappeared almost]. Mario Massa was a good friend of Sergio Focardi and he built and tested a calorimeter for the Piantelli-Focardi cell. While the Piantelli measurement was showing an excess heat, the calorimeter showed a little less than 100% that translates into no excess heat [I hope you understand that it is very difficult to build a fake calorimeter that gives a COP=1 exactly]. He was not anymore allowed to stay in the vicinity of the cell. You of course can continue to call this conspiracy, but your idea will not turn LENR into real. By the way Mario is a good friend of Bill Collis as well: you can ask him if he considers Mario to be a conspirator. Coming back to Mizuno we think that in the reported experiment there is no excess heat. It is written in the Mizuno's data, our demo is only a further proof. If you take a look of the data when the pump fails you will see that immediately both water and reactor wall temperatures start to decrease: in the presence of a reaction the wall temperature should have increased. Jed and Mizuno perform an experiment without hydrogen: the result is the same they got with hydrogen. The conclusion is that there is still some residual hydrogen in the reactor. In my vision this simply means they do not have the will to see reality. We are discussing if we are going to prepare on this experiment a paper to submit to ICCF-19: I'm sorry, this is not conspiracy, this is the scientific method. Maybe you are not a scientist and you are not familiar with it. Now at MFMP they are trying to replicate the Russian experiment: how can they hope to positively replicate a wrong experiment? Take a look of the gamma measurement: he had a mean value of 2 events per minute. With such a value, the Poissonian statistics that determines the photon counting tell us that we should have roughly 18% of intervals with zero gamma detected: do you see them? No one, so the instrument is simply broken and he measured the electrical white noise of the broken probe, probably. It is again conspiracy? If he did not detect that one instrument was not working why should I be convinced that the others were working properly? We shall see, in the meantime after a couple of years the Celani's excess heat in the constantan is still not replicated. Conspiracy? THE BIG CONSPIRACY AGAINT LENR! I'M THE BIG AND BLACK BOSS. 2015-01-10 14:40 GMT+01:00 Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>: > removing evidence of artifact is fraud. > don't feign to be kind. > > nobody with a brain ignore that rejection of cold fusion is based on a > conspiracy theory involving thousands of actors, mostly frauding, some just > incompetent. this is the 10 ton gorilla in LENR critics. > > people observing the usual mainstream position have to be informed they > observe a conspiracy theory group. > > now there can be errors, but nobody with a brain can ignore that it is > impossible to explain the mass of result without a conspiracy theory or > accepting LENr reality. > > now, grouthink have the ability to make the brain work in negative IQ, > this mean that the most intelligent and educated can flee from reality more > deeply than simple minds. > > Nothing personal, I am tired of this kind of hypocritical understatement... > "I am only criticizing that result" > > it is a tactic and each result individually is attacked with unproven > conspiracy theory, carefully not critical on itself. Divide the claims, > attack individual facts, and conquer the minds. very professional. > > If you say that you believe cold fusion phenomenon is real, or probably > real until disproven, I can interpret your critics as critics. > > I will accept it when you will apply some critical judgement on your > replication, like considering the artifact possible in YOUR setup, the > difference in various setup. > > but I doubt you will admit that reality as do most of deniers. this mean > that only serious people, who can be very critical I observe it, can > propose critics. > > this is a great problem of todays conspiracy theories supported by > mainstream, that make real critics hard to separate from pure denial. > Edmund storms in his book was clear that deniers are toxic to the > discovery of reality as they prevent sane analysis and push "circle the > wagon" or "I am tired". > this is the symptom of the "dead clock right twice a day", which give no > information. > > nothing personal (I always kind when I am personal), this is what I could > say to any denier like Lewis or Hansen (take it for them), or our beloved > mindguards,... > > all that is in fact coldly, rationally, a very common situation. > Conspiracy theories grow in our societies, and there is nothing exceptional > in cold fusion story. > There is also conspiracy theories in LENR constellation, that make me > laugh, and I would understand than the accused lose some of their flegme. > > I blame incompetence with high ego, as the main source of that tragedy. > People like Lewis, quite competent, but much more vexed and egotic than > their great competence, pretended to be sure on what they should not. and > less competent people with even more ego and influence amplified that > error, until nothing could be step back. > and it is tragic that less and more important people became mindguard for > that individual failure, transforming the tragedy of 5-10 egotic people > into a western academic tragedy. > > maybe Mizuno made an error, but your demo, the conspiracy theory behind, > is even worse than Rossi's demo, and charge of evidence is on your side > given the mass of other evidence. > > sorry to compare Rossi with you. > (Rossi will survive that comparison.) > > 2015-01-10 12:26 GMT+01:00 Gigi DiMarco <gdmgdms...@gmail.com>: > >> Alain, >> >> I'm not accusing anyone of having hidden an excel file; I'm just saying >> that Jed removed that file from his archives where I found it several weeks >> ago. I don't know why he removed it, maybe he could explain... >> >> Jed says it is of no importance to the present discussion; I find it of >> paramount importance. I call this, scientific democracy. >> >> There is no cospiracy around, but only measurement data: Mizuno's data >> and ours. Full stop. If you are not able to follow a scientific discussion >> please feel free to be silent. When we proved that Celani was right with >> his electrochemical compression at 80 bars, I do not remember you speaking >> of conspiracy against skeptics... >> >> 2015-01-10 10:45 GMT+01:00 Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>: >> >>> it move to an accusation of having hidden an excel file... >>> conspiracy... >>> >>> now my tactic is to force the people denying LENR to be clear out the >>> conspiracy theory they support so witness see it is huge and impossible. >>> >>> conspiracy is the easy answer to things one cannot accept... >>> not only in science 8( >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-01-09 21:48 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I see that we are not communicating accurately. To quote you in >>>>> response to Alain message regarding this subject several days ago, "I >>>>> will >>>>> not bother" with further communications. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I meant I would not discuss the matter over at the Italian web site. >>>> >>>> - Jed >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
