removing evidence of artifact is fraud. don't feign to be kind. nobody with a brain ignore that rejection of cold fusion is based on a conspiracy theory involving thousands of actors, mostly frauding, some just incompetent. this is the 10 ton gorilla in LENR critics.
people observing the usual mainstream position have to be informed they observe a conspiracy theory group. now there can be errors, but nobody with a brain can ignore that it is impossible to explain the mass of result without a conspiracy theory or accepting LENr reality. now, grouthink have the ability to make the brain work in negative IQ, this mean that the most intelligent and educated can flee from reality more deeply than simple minds. Nothing personal, I am tired of this kind of hypocritical understatement... "I am only criticizing that result" it is a tactic and each result individually is attacked with unproven conspiracy theory, carefully not critical on itself. Divide the claims, attack individual facts, and conquer the minds. very professional. If you say that you believe cold fusion phenomenon is real, or probably real until disproven, I can interpret your critics as critics. I will accept it when you will apply some critical judgement on your replication, like considering the artifact possible in YOUR setup, the difference in various setup. but I doubt you will admit that reality as do most of deniers. this mean that only serious people, who can be very critical I observe it, can propose critics. this is a great problem of todays conspiracy theories supported by mainstream, that make real critics hard to separate from pure denial. Edmund storms in his book was clear that deniers are toxic to the discovery of reality as they prevent sane analysis and push "circle the wagon" or "I am tired". this is the symptom of the "dead clock right twice a day", which give no information. nothing personal (I always kind when I am personal), this is what I could say to any denier like Lewis or Hansen (take it for them), or our beloved mindguards,... all that is in fact coldly, rationally, a very common situation. Conspiracy theories grow in our societies, and there is nothing exceptional in cold fusion story. There is also conspiracy theories in LENR constellation, that make me laugh, and I would understand than the accused lose some of their flegme. I blame incompetence with high ego, as the main source of that tragedy. People like Lewis, quite competent, but much more vexed and egotic than their great competence, pretended to be sure on what they should not. and less competent people with even more ego and influence amplified that error, until nothing could be step back. and it is tragic that less and more important people became mindguard for that individual failure, transforming the tragedy of 5-10 egotic people into a western academic tragedy. maybe Mizuno made an error, but your demo, the conspiracy theory behind, is even worse than Rossi's demo, and charge of evidence is on your side given the mass of other evidence. sorry to compare Rossi with you. (Rossi will survive that comparison.) 2015-01-10 12:26 GMT+01:00 Gigi DiMarco <gdmgdms...@gmail.com>: > Alain, > > I'm not accusing anyone of having hidden an excel file; I'm just saying > that Jed removed that file from his archives where I found it several weeks > ago. I don't know why he removed it, maybe he could explain... > > Jed says it is of no importance to the present discussion; I find it of > paramount importance. I call this, scientific democracy. > > There is no cospiracy around, but only measurement data: Mizuno's data and > ours. Full stop. If you are not able to follow a scientific discussion > please feel free to be silent. When we proved that Celani was right with > his electrochemical compression at 80 bars, I do not remember you speaking > of conspiracy against skeptics... > > 2015-01-10 10:45 GMT+01:00 Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>: > >> it move to an accusation of having hidden an excel file... >> conspiracy... >> >> now my tactic is to force the people denying LENR to be clear out the >> conspiracy theory they support so witness see it is huge and impossible. >> >> conspiracy is the easy answer to things one cannot accept... >> not only in science 8( >> >> >> >> 2015-01-09 21:48 GMT+01:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>: >> >>> Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I see that we are not communicating accurately. To quote you in >>>> response to Alain message regarding this subject several days ago, "I will >>>> not bother" with further communications. >>>> >>> >>> I meant I would not discuss the matter over at the Italian web site. >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
