Yes. Good observation. It is all a matter of large-scale perspective. What we think of as a "ground state" can indeed be a form of stored energy - to the degree that there are redundant states which are stable after releasing substantial energy which comes from electron spin (angular momentum etc).
It is very possible that most of the hydrogen in the Universe exists in what we call the fractional hydrogen state (f/H) also known as dark matter - and the hydrogen we see locally in water, or in our Sun, the other stars and galaxies - is a tiny minority state. That would be when compared to the vast amount of hydrogen which is out there in the Universe which does not radiate in the visible spectra. Most of that other hydrogen is "fractional" from our local perspective. Thus, to be accurate, up to 90% of all mass in the Universe is "dark" since it radiates no photons which we can see (but it does radiate x-rays) yet ... that species still consists of only protons and electrons. We should ditch the word "hydrino" as it is peculiar to Mills theory and is self-serving to him in a financial sense because he has taken the extraordinary step to trademark the word. In short, Mills would like to own the name of 90% of the matter in the Universe. The best alternative descriptor for this state can be "fractional hydrogen" or dark matter, or the DDL, or dense hydrogen, or pychno-hydrogen, or hydrogen clusters - take your pick. I prefer to use "f/H" as shorthand for the species, since it saves a few keystrokes, especially on Vortex. And especially if Parkhomov and Rossi were to get on board. -----Original Message----- From: Roarty, Francis X Thanks Terry - I was about to make a similar point regarding fractional hydrogen - you don't have to agree with the Naudt's proposal that the hydrogen is relativistic because even just from the perspective of fractional hydrogen loading into a lattice with defects you are still storing potential energy which we see from the heat after death incidents. The environment that puts hydrogen into these Rydberg/fractional states is storing energy in the orbital - energy levels of the orbital assume observers are in the same inertial frame and these atoms sitting in a stationary lump of hydride on a lab bench can't possibly be relativistic..or can they? What if the vacuum density modified by Casimir suppression could rise to the same level of compression experienced in a deep gravity well, a warp [suppression/equivalent negative acceleration] instead of a well [compression/equivalent positive acceleration]? The gas atoms are loaded into these suppression regions under pressure allowing gas motion [HUP] to massage these atoms into their fractional states. As the pressure slowly leaks back to atmospheric the fractional hydrogen leaves these regions the orbitals want to return to their normal ground state but any bonds will become stressed making them more easily broken to the point of over unity. I could see 137 possible lock steps of bonding and unbonding occur for the most fractional H2. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Blanton Jed Rothwell wrote : > I guess Piantelli said this . . . or there is a misunderstanding. Perhaps he speaks of fractional Rydberg states? You could call that energy stored from about 13 billion years ago. :-)
