Bob--
What you say if obvious and needs to be considered IMHO.
Bob Cook
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Higgins
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:A strange and screwy claim by Piantelli
I don't know why you think it is impossible. Energy storage in ions may be
impractical for any significant energy storage, but the ionization energy is
exactly as he describes. Even though it was described as energy/mole, it is no
different than saying 13.6 eV/atom. No one ever said a mole would or could be
ionized in such a small apparatus. However, it is just another item in the
energy balance.
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
Bob Higgins <rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Piantelli was describing the various ways that energy can be stored in an
experiment with hydrogen, and included the comment about 1,312 kJ/mole for
IONIZED hydrogen.
It is not possible to store this much energy in hydrogen.
If you multiply the ionization energy of about 13.6 eV/atom by 6.02E23
atoms/mole and convert to kJ, you get this well known number. He was not
suggesting that this is a practical way of storage, but simply a part of the
total energy accounting that must take place.
This is not merely impractical, it is impossible. Since it is impossible,
it makes no sense to claim that a total energy accounting must be done to
assure this has not happened.
If anything remotely like this were possible it would revolutionize
chemical energy storage. It would be tremendously important, and it would merit
a Nobel.
If anyone has a "screw loose", it is NOT Piantelli - he is spot on when
you finally grasp what he has said, and knows the physics and thermodynamics
extremely well.
If Piantelli thinks it is possible to store this much energy in hydrogen,
and he thinks this must be accounted for because it might happen, then he does
not understand calorimetry or ordinary chemistry, and yes, he does a screw
loose.
- Jed
