I think that would be a good idea to compile this knowledge in one place. My opinion is that it should start where we are in the field to facilitate advancement. The first thing needed is a relatively simple design to demonstrate LENR. I think once that has been achieved, and it has been replicated by many, the advancement would go along the lines of controlling/regulating the reaction. Accessible working designs at present include only Parkhomov. Until at least one other group can replicate his results there remains some doubt (at least to me).
Jack On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Lewan Mats <mats.le...@nyteknik.se> wrote: > Frank, > > > > Let’s hope the ECW knowledge base can contribute to this. I think it would > be extremely valuable to have all these ideas and all this knowledge > accessible and searchable. > > > > Actually, I believe that this is part of a new way of developing > knowledge, faster than what was ever possible before the internet, which > will further contribute to the well-known trend with inventions spreading > over the world to mass adoption at an ever increasing speed (compare > automobiles, television, mobile phones). Judging from technology history, > LENR will reach mass adoption faster than any earlier invention. > > > > Mats > > www.animpossibleinvention.com > > > > > > *Från:* Frank Acland [mailto:ecatwo...@gmail.com] > *Skickat:* den 13 februari 2015 14:20 > > *Till:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Ämne:* Re: [Vo]:How could we collect ideas and knowledge on engineering > of LENR devices? > > > > Mats, > > > > I hope that in time the the ECW LENR Knowledge Base would be useful for > the kind of thing you are discussing. We certainly want to have information > about LENR engineering included. > > > > The Wiki structure using MediaWiki software is familiar and quite > flexible, and allows for searching capabilities. It's not organized like a > discussion forum or email list, but there is the capability for discussion > on every article on the site in the talk section. > > > > Right now there are just a very few people active in creating content -- > and we've only just started, so it's rather limited so far. I hope in time > that number of contributors will increase. > > > > Anyone interesting in getting involved in editing the KB, please email me > at ecatwo...@gmail.com, and I'll get you set up with an account. > > > > Best, > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Lewan Mats <mats.le...@nyteknik.se> > wrote: > > Good thoughts Rob. > > > > I believe that the main challenge for LENR Cities will be to provide > substantial innovation of its own. > > Experience from the IT industry tells us that in order to grow a > successful eco-system where talented people will contribute, you need to > offer attractive innovation for others to build upon, e.g. Windows, > IOS/iPhone/iPad, Android (the counter example is Nokia/Symbian that was not > good enough). > > Just to offer a network will not do, if you want to produce revenue from > you eco-system. > > > > And even if you don’t plan for profit you need to offer innovation – e.g. > Wikipedia (the idea + the wiki tool), Linux (the Linux kernel by Torvalds > et al). > > > > This would correspond to the part that you mention will be shared openly > by those who do not care about IP. Maybe enthusiasm could do initially, but > sooner or later you probably have to offer something substantial to build > upon, to attract people. > > > > Yet, I think that the structures you suggest are spot-on, and the idea to > look at other community projects is good. 3D printers and drones are > examples of communities that are more loosely held together, and yet they > have information sharing. > > > > Mats > > www.animpossibleinvention.com > > > > > > > > *Från:* Teslaalset [mailto:robbiehobbiesh...@gmail.com] > *Skickat:* den 13 februari 2015 11:41 > *Till:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Ämne:* Re: [Vo]:How could we collect ideas and knowledge on engineering > of LENR devices? > > > > Mats, some thoughts: > > > > Maybe the guys from LENR-cities have some ideas. They promote an open IP > structure, although not well defined yet. I've asked for more details, but > they probably are lacking time in detailling this out for the moment. > > > > Part of valuable ideas will probably be converted into patent applications > as well by individuals. > > Those inventors may want to promote their ideas as soon as their ideas are > secured. > > > > The other part will be shared openly by those who do not care about IP. > > > > Collecting and stucturing ideas also require serious moderation to keep a > certain professional level. > > I've been thinking of several places to moderate professional engineering > ideas: > > - meetup groups > > - moderated LinkedIn groups > > - dedicated e-mail reflectors > > > > I see several sub-groups that handle following activities: > > - a think tank that defines engeneering topics and brainstorms about > solutions > > - a review team that reviews proposed engineering ideas > > - a feasibility team that is able to prototype (e.g. MFMP) > > - F2F meetings in several regions. > > > > Another approach: > > Are there similar global cooperation projects that can be used to piggy > back on? > > - How is the 3D printing society organized? > > - How is the Drone society organized? > > - Cooperate with FabLabs that facilitate tooling? > > - Other global cooperation activities that have usefull ways of working ? > > > > Cheers, > > Rob > > > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Lewan Mats <mats.le...@nyteknik.se> > wrote: > > Lots of interesting ideas are flowing here on Vortex on various aspects > of LENR engineering – methods to control the phenomenon, different > materials to be tried, temperatures to focus on, geometries etc. > > > > How could all these ideas be collected and structured, in order to make > the information searchable for anyone who’s trying to develop and engineer > future devices? > > > > Frank Acland made an initiative with a kind of Wiki: > http://kb.e-catworld.com/index.php?title=E-Cat_World_LENR_Knowledge_Base > , but I don’t know if it has any chance of being used for this kind of flow > of ideas. > > > > Probably the gathering of information should be automated with text > analysis. > > > > Comments? > > > > Mats > > > > Mats > > www.animpossibleinvention.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Frank Acland > Publisher, E-Cat World <http://www.e-catworld.com> > >
