Your prudence seems the fruit of experience ;-) The calorimetry is to be improved to convince. it seems to be a single thermometer... It won't convince GSVIT ;-)
Anyway we have not enough data on the calibration, not even to criticize. As I understand Alexander is working to improve the calorimetry ? is there ideas where he is going ? what would be the possibilities according to competent people here ? Mass calorimetry (steam, or why not ice?) could be interesting, but the device now is quite big, and a big shelter is hard to maintain heat tight... Moreover some people would like thermometry to cross check the measurements and with such a big device and big shelter, it is difficult to make any thermometry. Thermography seems too complex with alumina, but maybe if painted in black... Just a a naive kid, I ask to competent people if covering the reactor with soot, would make it quite blackbody? at least greybody ? of course there is specific painting, but expensive ... Is there a cheap blackbody covering? 2015-03-20 3:41 GMT+01:00 Jack Cole <[email protected]>: > Without all the details, it may be hard to fully evaluate this. If the > thermocouple was on the inside of the cell (and only one was used), it > opens the possibility of differences in heat conduction. Imagine a > thermocouple in the air in the center of the tube versus touching the > nickel fuel in the active run. The heat would conduct more readily through > the nickel than it would through the air (obviously). If the control run > was heated up much more rapidly and given less time to fully heat the > inside of the chamber, that may also be a problem. It would be good to > have a second thermocouple affixed to the outside of the heater (assuming > he didn't use more than one TC). > > There would be some fairly obvious indications that something was wrong if > this was a big problem (e.g., incandescence level differences). It seems > unlikely that Parkhomov would have missed something like that. > > Overall, it seems to support his previous findings. Looking forward to > more details. > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Alberto De Souza < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I would suggest running two identical reactors in the same room (one >> without fuel) with heating resistances (identical) in series. If the fueled >> reactor becomes hotter, we have excess heat. One can film (MFMP style) the >> measurement of the resistance of the heaters before, and the voltage on >> them during the operation, to prove to skeptics that one have excess heat. >> >> Alberto. >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> The main player is hydrogen. LIALH$ contains ` 10% in weight >>> H2, i.e. 6mgr. >>> 2 gr H2 is 22410 mL in standard conditions; ergo 6mgr hydrogen >>> makes 67 mL gas. This is disappearing during the process >>> adsorbed in the melt and...? >>> Peter >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 7:22 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> If there are some air in the reactor the oxygen will oxidise Ni an >>>> possible other compounds then the temperature becomes high enough. >>>> >>>> This binds the oxygen and it will lower the pressure. >>>> >>>> It will also make some heat, but only until the oxygen are consumed. >>>> >>>> Torulf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 11:44:40 -0400, ChemE Stewart <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's awesome! >>>> >>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2015, Jack Cole <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is impressive even without calorimetry. He would have to make a >>>>> severe mistake on input power measurement to be off that far. To be more >>>>> specific, he would have to make a mistake on input power measurement on >>>>> the >>>>> run with fuel that he did not make on the run without the fuel (very >>>>> unlikely). >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Jack, >>>>>> This morning - 8 hours ago, the reactor was still working. Nothing >>>>>> was announced till now. >>>>>> I am sure Alexander will work out a proper calorimetry system, not >>>>>> easy >>>>>> - if no sufficient cooling (as in his older system) risk of >>>>>> overheating and burnout. >>>>>> I have searched for the new sort of nickel he is using- it is Ni-carbonyl >>>>>> powder according to GOST 9722-97 (Like ASTM, DIN) type PNK-O2 >>>>>> See please here- with Google Translate >>>>>> http://meganorm.ru/Data2/1/4294820/4294820717.pdf >>>>>> Please tell me if it does not work so. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Jack Cole <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Great work Peter. The fact that he has repeated the results using a >>>>>>> method alternative to his calorimetry is very encouraging. In addition, >>>>>>> the fact that he was able to run for such a long time easily rules out >>>>>>> chemical effects. Hopefully, it will keep on running for more days to >>>>>>> weeks. I was concerned about the fact that he ran out of his initial >>>>>>> supply of nickel, but fortunately, the concern appears unfounded. >>>>>>> There is >>>>>>> another important detail disclosed - he only obtained 5 bar of pressure >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> max. This may well indicate that relatively low pressures are fine for >>>>>>> initiating the reaction. That's good news from a safety perspective. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Peter Gluck <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> The evolution of pressure is a lesson of realism, we have >>>>>> calculaled hundreds of bars from inside and have 1/2 bars from outside. >>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>> Peter >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>> I wanted that you should receive these news as fast as possible >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/03/fast-issue-lenr-parkhomov-news-from.html >>>>>>>> We will discuss detais and connections later. >>>>>>>> Peter >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>>>>>>> Cluj, Romania >>>>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>>>>> Cluj, Romania >>>>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Peter Gluck >>> Cluj, Romania >>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >>> >> >> >
