I mean "(very truthful, but we need two ammeters, therefore, problems with
skeptics)".

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:24 PM, Alberto De Souza <
[email protected]> wrote:

> If we put the heaters in series, we are sure the current is the same in
> both. It is easy to measure the voltage on each one of them with a hand
> voltimeter. With current and voltage, we can compute the resistance of each
> one and the power each one is dissipating.
>
> Conversely, if we put them in parallel, the voltage is the same. But we
> have to measure the current on each one of them. One can do that with a
> series ammeter (very truthful, but we need to ammeters, therefore, problems
> with skeptics) or with a inductive one (not so much truthful because the
> measurement is indirect; problems with skeptics). I would go with the
> series circuit. One just need more voltage from the variac transformer to
> power two reactors.
>
> Alberto.
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  The resistance of the two legs of the circuit components will change as
>> a function of temperature.  Thus, if power input is to be the same or even
>> predictable, the resistances of the coils along their length as a function
>> of temperature should be known.  This bit of information is not trivial.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Axil Axil <[email protected]>
>> *To:* vortex-l <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 1:57 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:fast LENR news about Parkhomov, etc.,
>>
>>  Series and parallel circuits
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits
>>
>> In a series circuit, the current through each of the components is the
>> same, and the voltage <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage> across the
>> circuit is the sum of the voltages across each component.[1]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits#cite_note-R.26H321-1>
>> In a parallel circuit, the voltage across each of the components is the
>> same, and the total current is the sum of the currents through each
>> component.[3]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_and_parallel_circuits#cite_note-R.26H324-3>
>>
>> We would also need to show that the current to the two reactors was the
>> same using two ammeters connected to the heater coil of each reactor.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Would we not want to wire the reactors in parallel to avoid a voltage
>>> drop between the two reactors if they were connected in series?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Alberto De Souza <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Alain, you are right in your analysis. A skeptic may point out all
>>>> the problems you have mentioned. But we have something new now: MFMP and
>>>> their live science approach. If they show (live) the complete process of
>>>> puting the two reactors in series and the reactor with fuel shows
>>>> significantly higher temperature for enough time, it is done. No skeptic
>>>> whining will be strong enough to change the tide. All big-funded
>>>> laboratories in world will try and replicate the results in the following
>>>> few days (all relevant data for replication will be in the Internet). MFMP
>>>> is doing everything right, and they are using the weapons of today -
>>>> immediate socialization of information. If they are successful in a
>>>> experiment as I have suggested, i.e. a live experiment with a clear null
>>>> hypothesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_hypothesis), they will
>>>> make history.
>>>>
>>>> To my knowledge, no one in history have yet presented an experiment
>>>> showing significant excess heat side by side with its null hypothesis.
>>>> Either the experimenters try to show excess heat with calorimetry (too
>>>> hard) or they do the experimental test and the null hyposthesis in
>>>> different moments and not taking proper care with the control variables.
>>>>
>>>> Alberto.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Alain Sepeda <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hidden wire, RF supply, solar cell, can explain an apparent
>>>>> self-sustain.
>>>>>
>>>>> David have a good idea, that skeptic do the experiment themselves.
>>>>> some have done in their time and now they are here ;-) accused of
>>>>> fraud an delusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> moreover most skeptic refuse to experiment, and when experimenting
>>>>> have a tendency to reject any success and not to try long.
>>>>> It have to be easy.
>>>>>
>>>>> easy, with a theory, with a practical interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm shocked today by the fact that most people instead of saying "it
>>>>> is unreal", say me "show me the reactor in home depot"...
>>>>>
>>>>> either a theory or an application.
>>>>> there is no room in Science for unexplained phenomenon that are not on
>>>>> the market.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-03-20 16:50 GMT+01:00 Daniel Rocha <[email protected]>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Alain, all of these difficulties can be overcome by a self
>>>>>> sustained system. 3.2x system can vaporize, condense at certain hight, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> use the fall of water to generate power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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