David-- I recently saw a paper that suggest coupling of intrinsic spin of a particle to electron orbital spin states, which I think was conserved spin. I will look into my file to see, if I can come up with the paper later today--I am watching NCAA now.
Also keep in mind that any energetic particle will be a charged particle and give its energy up will lots of disruption of the local material and its structure. The idea of conserving spin in a large coherent system seems possible with as you say transformations occurring at the same time in the same coherent system. For example, 2 adjacent bcc lattice positions each containing 2 D could fuse to form 2 He nuclei in high spin energy states and each "decay" to a 0 spin ground state with conservation of spin and angular momentum. One virtual He would start with a negative spin state and the other with a positive spin state, ending up with stable 0 spin in each new He. The spin would be distributed to orbital electron spin states of the lattice electrons and thereby increase its temperature by causing dimensional phonic changes in the lattice. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: David Roberson To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Probability Enhancement via SPP If electrons were the only particle generated the system would assume a negative charge that continues to increase over time. Most reactions with electrically neutral particles generate an equal number of positive charged particles as negative ones. The fact that there are no 511 keV gammas suggests to me that no positrons are being generated during the process. These issues makes the direct conversion of mesons(unless they are negative initially) into only electrons not likely in this case. Is there reason to believe that negatively charged mesons originate during the LENR reaction? It appears to me that we need to uncover some technique that allows spin energy to be directly converted into kinetic energy of atoms without an associated significant amount of radiation. Of course the other option discussed where alphas are generated would allow an effecient transfer of energy to take place without the very high velocity lighter particles. Does anyone know of proof that spin is conserved throughout the system in a manner that is similar to the conservation of angular momentum? If this is true then the spin would always be originated as both a positive and a negative pair during a reaction. One participating particle would acquire positive spin while another negative so the net spin is zero. The way that this spin become thermalized remains an interesting question. Bob, do you have a theory about how this occurs? Or, is my thinking wrong about the conservation of spin? Just my two cents worth. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Mar 22, 2015 12:34 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Probability Enhancement via SPP A lot of energy could be expended in the creation of electrons as a final product of meson decay. How can we tell if the LENR reaction converts spin into electrons. On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote: Bob, Spin could be heavily involved, as would be expected with SPP - but there is no valid physical model for complete conversion of kilowatts of power into only spin, as you seem to suggest. If there was, then that avenue is certainly more elegant. Since we have no guidance from Physics for complete conversion to spin - I am trying to fit this phenomenon into a framework where there is an accepted model (even if not widely known). At the same time, good evidence is turning up that there is a large QM anomaly for lithium-6 leading to fusion with the ash consisting solely of helium. These are fast particles, even if less energetic than expected in hot fusion, and that amount of kinetic energy cannot easily show up as only spin. http://xxx.tau.ac.il/pdf/1503.05266.pdf The main problem being one of a complete absence of bremsstrahlung... (there are no gammas from the start in the reaction, so we do not have to deal with that problem). This is a bit different from Hagelstein's hypothesis, where he is struggling to downshift gammas to phonon vibrations - where the coupling spans 9 orders of magnitude with complete certainty and no leakage. With a coherent S-matrix of superradiant coherent IR photons, the problem is reduced to 4 orders of magnitude, where physical evidence does exist for the coupling premise (albeit not complete). From: Bob Cook Jones-- There is no bremsstrahlung because there are no particles emitted with high kinetic energy--only quantum spin energy is involved. Bob ----- Original Message ----- Wiki has a superficial entry for quantum probability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_probability and a more complete entry for S-Matrix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-matrix The crux of this post is to suggest that the alumina tube reactor operates via an enhanced "probability field" favoring a rare nuclear reaction, and that the key to this probability enhancement is photonic .... via SPP - surface plasmon polaritons. Specifically, the premise is that in an intense flux of IR photons, which is initiated by incandesce, the low probability of a few nuclear reactions, especially those involving Li-6, can be enhanced and at the same time excess energy which is derived can be absorbed by the photonic flux, creating a positive feedback parameter. Because the underlying reaction is gamma free, and the sole component of ash is alpha particles, the missing mechanism (for now) is the coupling of the 3 alpha emission to the photonic flux (Li6 + Li6 > 3He). From there on, the details of how the expected bremsstrahlung can be completely downshifted require "illumination"... but the missing mechanism may have been hidden in plain view, all along. This premise is easily falsifiable. More later, Jones
