Axil--

Note that the paper says the energy is angular momentum not kinetic energy of 
the alphas.  Angular momentum energy is spin energy.  The alphas move away with 
essentially no kinetic energy normally associated with non-solid state or 
non-coherent systems.  It is my conclusion from what Cook claims, that the 
electronic cloud must shield the alphas as they are formed from being repulsed 
from each other, or their charge does not materialize until the spin energy is 
fractionated and their distance is sufficient so as to impart only a small 
kinetic energy to each particle, if they have not already become neutral He 
atoms. The Pauli Uncertainty Principle may come into play to spread the wave 
function of the spin energy of the excited He* to a large radius compared to 
the radius associated with a ground state He nucleus.  The enlarged wave 
function may also act to couple to the rest of the particles in the locale 
(coherent system), including the electrons.  

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:52 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea 
Rossi


  Figure 5 depicts the alpha creation process. See how the alpha particles are 
moving away in opposite directions?


  Figure 5: The lowest-lying excited-state of 7 Li4 (A) has a lattice structure 
to which an additional proton will produce a two-tetrahedron structure, giving 
8 Be4 (B). The double alpha lattice structure (C) can then break into 
independent two alpha particles (D), which are released with 17 MeV of angular 
momentum, but without gamma radiation. 


  On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

    Axil--

    You said Cook said this: "Cook says that high energy alpha particles exit 
the NAE at high energy and deliver their energy to the far field at an some 
indeterminate distance from the NAE that produced the energy."  

    I did not see this statement.  Where was Cook's statement made?

    What I saw in the new paper was that the energy of the alphas from the Be-8 
decay was in the form of 17 Mev of angular momentum (spin energy)--not kinetic 
energy.  (The slowing-down of 17 MeV alphas would cause noticeable x-rays and 
other high energy EM radiation.)  The alphas apparently stays put and transfers 
its excess energy via spin coupling, one spin quanta or so at a time.

    Bob Cook


      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Axil Axil 
      To: vortex-l 
      Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 8:57 AM
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author 
Andrea Rossi


      Like so many LENR theories, the Cook theory of the LENR reaction is not 
fundamental. Like almost all other LENR  theories, it deals with the emergent 
results of the fundamental LENR reaction without explaining the cause of the 
observed experimental results.


      If a theory cannot explain EVERY aspect of the experimental results in 
every dimension, it is not valid.
      In particular, the way energy of these high powered alpha particles are 
converted to heat is not addressed, even though that part of the LENR theory is 
central to how the energy of the nuclear reaction is converted to soft x-rays 
and extreme ultraviolet light.


      I have concluded from the experimental results derived from many LENR 
systems that the gamma suppression and the basic LENR nuclear reaction is 
tightly coupled together so that if a LENR based nuclear event occurs, no gamma 
is ever seen in a environment that has gotten hot enough (500C).


      Gamma suppression is an essential part of the LENR reaction.  So Gamma 
suppression is an essential part of what is going on inside the Nuclear Active 
Environment. If energy is carried away from the NAE, it cannot be converted to 
its final moderated form (soft x-rays and extreme ultraviolet light.) by the 
LENR reaction.  


      Cook says that high energy alpha particles exit the NAE at high energy 
and deliver their energy to the far field at an some indeterminate distance 
from the NAE that produced the energy. If this were true, there is always a 
slight chance that the alpha particle could exit the gas envelop and deposit 
its kinetic energy in the Alumina shell where a gamma ray would result. This 
gamma ray is never seen. So if an alpha particle is produced it must have 
little or no kinetic energy that is transferred to the far field.


      All the energy of the nuclear reaction is carried away from the NAE by 
the LENR reaction itself. The gamma emission is an intrinsic part of the LENR 
reaction energy transfer mechanism.




      On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:21 AM, a.ashfield <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        Jones Beene writes.  "this paper is cannot be taken seriously. A waste 
of time."

        I wish you wouldn't just damn the paper out of hand but give some 
reasons of just why it is wrong.  I don't have the knowledge of nuclear 
reactions that some others do here, but most of the theories seem far from 
solid to me and this one is no worse.  It should at least be considered.




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